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1943 1 Anna India , Clipped Planchet?

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 Posted 09/26/2010  4:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add unnkown95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I received this from Germany from a family member along with 3 Lbs. of other coins. I think this one is a clipped planchet I dont think it was post mint damage. I would like your opinions on this one. Thanks, aslo the value if it has one.

[URL="http://img299.imageshack.us/i/india19431anna.png/]1943-1-Anna-India-,-Clipped-Planchet?[/URL]

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 Posted 09/26/2010  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
also I dont know how coins are minted in India during that time period and if something like this is possible there
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You should probably have this move to World coins. As far as the error, it looks like it could be an incomplete planchet, but like you, I'm not sure of their minting process, either. I'm sure bio or one of the other pros will be along soon to set us both straight.
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Cool coin, by the way! That must be fun going through a whole bunch of new stuff!
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From the view on the screen, it may be post mint tampering. I will NOT say this definitely. Planchet errors come in two ways. The most common is that the banking machine cuts two blanks that are too close to each other. This results in a concave edge in one of the blanks.

The other way is that a blank may be cut from either too close to the edge of a strip, or too close to the end. This results in a straight edge to the blank. This is probably the case with your coin, it is just a bit hard to say so for sure on the screen.

I have an Aussie Two Dollar coin of the second type and the thickness of the struck planchet is a bit thinner in that area. In this case, the straight edge was so close to the circumference that the coin ended up round, but there is no milling near where the straight edge used to be, and is slightly under weight.
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Yeesh, I have a really good understanding of incomplete planchet errors for standard planchets but I just don't know what to make of this scalloped thingie Is that how the blank is punched out or is the planchet shaped in the collar? Either way, I do not think it would go through an upsetting mill so the Blakesely Effect would not be present. A genuine clip should be a bit tapered at the edge and the devices will flow off the edge instead of ending abruptly. Also examine the edge for any change in patina or parallel striations that would indicate sawing/grinding.
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thanks for the input guys!
@biokemist- I checked the edge for any signs of scratches/sawing because thats the only I way I would be able to tell if it was post mint or not and didnt see any thats why I was wondering if you guys could tell or not, and as to how they make that shape no idea :). I dont really know our minting process lol forget Indias in the 1940's.

@scoobydue- yeah it is a lot of fun going through a bunch of coins especially the ones that look completelty different than the ones here in the US like square shaped or they have holes in the center. I dont know mnay of them so I will be posting many many pictures of them or scans actually. I dont know how to get a good picture of coins with a camera but I'm pretty impressed by the scanner results at 600 dpi. Also I'm not completly sure how to move this to the world coin forum could you help me out there?

@sel 691- lol I certainly hope it doesn't turn out to be post mint but either way its a cool coin.

Also any body have any ideas on how to store different world currencies? I have so many but I dont know how I should organize them.The only way I can think of is put them all in 2x2 .

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 Posted 09/28/2010  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although I have never seen a foreign error myslef.
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well indian coins have poor quality control so you can see a lot of errors for a few bucks. its a little hobby into itself :)

look at the clipped part and see how it feels if its aged like the rest of the coin then its okay however if its new then I would have some doubts

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I would think ANY incomplete planchet error coin that was struck using a press would show profound weakness along the edge of the clip - and I just don't see that in the images provided. This doesn't necessarily mean it's not there or even needs to be there. Just an observation on my part.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes copper you are right
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