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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Metalman
08/13/2006 4:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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It's new to me. How about VF-35? Er, make that VF-30  B Edited by Bonedigger
08/13/2006 4:23 pm
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Forum Mom
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I don't remember if I posted an opinion before or not, but I think it's VF30. Just a little too much wear on the breast and hair for EF40, even considering the weaker New Orleans strike.
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Pillar of the Community
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question for you what is that by the b in Pluribus one dental to the left it looks like extra metal, from a collar or something or remanants of a jewelry piece. I will say vf 30 maybe 35 ... Nice pic's by the way a little on the grey scale but by far way better than I can do
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Pillar of the Community
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I know I'm probably going to take a thrashing for this  but I don't think thats wear I'm seeing.Looks like a very weak strike.The rest of the coin is just not adding up to what looks like wear on the high areas.In my old eyes anyway,I'll let the experts school me on this one. |
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WOW that is one heck of a weak strike on that coin. The reason I say that is because there is wear in the hair but not in other places you would expect to see atleast some traces of wear on the obverse. Then on the Reverse it looks like it is from a different coin and looks like it has been used frequently, so this is a anomoly to me and am scared to even give this thing a grade because if it were a strong strike and didnt have them spots it would be a high MS coin because I dont see many hits at all on the coin
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You know, looking at these new pics, I'm pretty much convinced that's an Uncirculated coin. The "wear" is too flat to be circulation artifacts. If the ear were worn that badly from circulation, the forehead hair would show more wear, as would the lower hair details. I see no wear on the cheek. If the arrows are that flat from wear, why are the upper wing edges still sharp?
This one should never have left the mint.
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Pillar of the Community
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All the weakness is centered in the one area on both sides. Is this from what they call worn dies and or the pressure setting wasn't high enough? I am just learning all this die striking stuff so bear with me. It definitely looks unc because it is still so silvery. So I look at it like this. MS-70 minus 10 points for weak strike on obv and rev = MS-60 MS-60 minus 2 points, 1 each for the black spots on the front = AU-58 AU-58 minus 3 points for a few minor dings on both sides = AU-55 AU-55 minus 5 points for general appeal and for that nasty denticle mess at the top of the B by PLURIBUS = AU-50 My final grade would be XF-45 (because I always go one grade lower than what my figures indicate so as not to give anyone too much false hope.)  XF-45 |
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I see what every one is talking about it doesn't look like wear but a very very weak strike , are you sure its real based on what I see on the dentil and the unusually weak strike I would assume that some one made it to look worn, but is not... I really don't know on this one, or I am not sure how one would grade it or not
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Hi Jim
Im sure that the coin is authentic !!
Rick
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I was going to take a stab at this one without reading others comments however, after reading them AND trying to do it I think weak strike and wear marks (bag type marks) and I definitely don't like the damage. I would only go VF but, I know that you Morgan folks would agree with Irishraider and his XF-45. I just don't care for coins with any sort of "damage". This would lower the coins appeal to zilch for me, numismatic value aside. Sorry Rick!
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Pillar of the Community
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Actually,I believe its close to,if not MS.
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Pillar of the Community
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eeeeuuuuuuuuuu - MS? You must think that is a really, really weak strike and that the coin has low mileage. Come on TLS5933 you've got to be kidding! Huh! Explain your reasons for thinking this please! MS with those nasty scars? I'm still learning Morgans but, huh?
(TLS5933 - you've got mail)
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08/13/2006 11:23 pm
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MS does not mean the coin is perfect.Perfect would be MS70.The lowest grade MS is MS60,which is an uncirculated with no trace of wear.BUT with bag marks and other abrasions.MS60 has full mint luster but can lack brilliance and the surface may be spotted.The scar across the cheek looks to be a die crack to me.Other than that I don't see any major issues other that a super weak strike.Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi Deb
That is one of the cool things about coins !! tastes vary as do opinions,,
Speaking of opinions ,I was hoping Fred would post to this thread, well maybe tomorrow !!
TLS I appreciate your remarks ,, They help me greatly on the Morgans !!
Rick
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