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1888-O Revisited

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 Posted 08/15/2006  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A weak strike does limit Morgan grades, but not until you reach Gem condition. The coin I posted would have had an honest shot at 66 with a better strike, and nothing that cannot be described as having a "strong strike" will ever see MS67.
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 Posted 08/15/2006  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rick,
Have you thought about getting this one graded? It is definately a nice example piece of being a weak strike. Had you turned it down, I would have kept it. Originally I was selling it as a VF (bought it as such), until a dealer saw it and told me it was a weak strike and what to look for for the weak strikes. I am hoping to eventually run across a 96 or 97 like this. Buy it as a VF although it is UNC.

I recently sold a 91-O on ebay that was a weak strike, but not matter what I said in the description, nobody wanted to believe me (accept for the winner). It ended up selling for $40 $100 Greysheet bid in 60). I sent a message to the winner and said I will pay you $20 if I don't sell the coin... he did not accept.
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 Posted 08/16/2006  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jd

Ya I think I'm going to have it slabbed ,, Like dave said If for no other reason to post in a thread like this one.

I really like this coin , it is one of my favorites !!

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 Posted 08/16/2006  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If Metalman's coin had been in circulation, as was mentioned previously we would see much more damage in the fields (there are no serious bagmarks visible - if we ignore the strike weakness this coin has fewer bagmarks than some I have seen graded MS65). One other point to note is how strong and square the rim is. It does not require much circulation to damage that rim and give it a rounded look.

I just love the natural look of Superdave's coin...

Incidentally, is that weak strike typical of an 1888-O?

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08/16/2006 06:49 am
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quote:
Originally posted by thesandpit

If Metalman's coin had been in circulation, as was mentioned previously we would see much more damage in the fields (there are no serious bagmarks visible - if we ignore the strike weakness this coin has fewer bagmarks than some I have seen graded MS65). One other point to note is how strong and square the rim is. It does not require much circulation to damage that rim and give it a rounded look.

I just love the natural look of Superdave's coin...

Incidentally, is that weak strike typical of an 1888-O?





No, thats not a usual weak strike for the 1888-O. This is a very rare super weak strike. New Orleans Morgans are known for a weak strike but this in one of the first I have seen this poorly struck.
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 Posted 08/18/2006  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got back from several days in the boonies of Prescott, AZ.

Rick, isn't this the Morgan I threatened to come over to look at (presuming I could get past your Rotties - Oh, I see we have some new smilies added while I was gone) since this is the kind of coin which can really only be evaluated in hand. I figured the last time it was discussed it was either a VF-25 or -30 or an MS-xx, IIRC. The dark spots and marks on Liberty's face and neck would bring it down some if it proved to be MS. I'm still not completely convinced it's uncirculated, but these updated pics have me leaning more toward that direction than in the previous thread. If it's just an uncirculated very weak strike from N'Orleans, it's the weakest strike I've ever seen and perhaps might set a record at one of the top TPGs (SGS might give it an MS-69 and HCGS would go one step further and give it an MS-71 ).

Even back in the 1800s, they pulled cull coins at the mint, so I'm surprised this one made it past them.

Definitely should be graded and slabbed.

Tell you what: maybe you should send it over so I can give it my personal attention. And I'd be happy to store it for you in our new ultra-low humidity non-reactive atmosphere vault in the middle of the ultra-low humidity non-reactive atmosphere Aridzona desert

As Always,
Fred

PS - I'll be offline off and on again over the next couple weeks. Gotta get back to the desert - it's getting ready to snow up here in the mountains- and I gotta pack up. That said, I'll try to check in on Morgan topics as often as possible. I shudda married Lady Liberty!
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