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Georgius IIIi 1823

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 Posted 08/13/2006  5:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rugby7h to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, My first posting so a few problems attahcing photos will keep trying, but heres the info first. I have a coin dia. 32mm dated ANNO 1823 on the same side is the crest of arms and a phrase in latin. HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE. On the otherside George IIII profile with a laurel crown and the following writting: GEORGIUS IIII D:G: BRITANNIAR: REX F:D:. Can anyone shed any light as it was found amoung the treasured items from my fathers estate. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks
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 Posted 08/14/2006  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would be a halfcrown (2 shillings sixpence). There were two types in 1823: the "motto" type and the "no motto" type; your one has the motto, by your description. Sadly, the "no motto" type is the scarcer of the two.

Value depends on condition; in my world coin catalogue, it's listed as US$26 in Fine, US$60 in Very Fine, $250 in Extremely Fine. Post a pic, either here or in the "grading practice" part of the forum, and some of the folks here can have a guess at the grade.

You should probably also get a price for it over there, in pounds, from an up-to-date copy of the Spink British catalogue. Can't help you there, I'm afraid - "1980 edition" isn't very up-to-date!
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 Posted 08/14/2006  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just for your info
the motto is french

HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE

roughly translates in : Shame on the person that thinks ill of this

It is still used in situations that could be interpreted wrongly
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 Posted 08/14/2006  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ageka,'Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense' is commonly expressed as 'Evil to him whom evil thinks'.

Rugby7h,you have definitely got a British King George IV (1820-30) 1/2 Crown.The 1829 is the scarcest date.

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 Posted 08/14/2006  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is difficult to give a real translation
but " Shame on the person who has a bad thought about this"
would best describe the motto

It is still used in todays french with a smile and a wink
Like when a neighbour sees the mailman walk into your house when you are at work 'Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense'
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 Posted 08/14/2006  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how about this coin is this the same coin

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 Posted 08/14/2006  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amac44,no that is not the same coin.That is a British 1938 Penny of King George VI (1936-52),I'm afraid.

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 Posted 08/17/2006  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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