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Can you tell I picked up a few 1952 proof sets? Grade opinions? Cameo? Deep Cameo?

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 Posted 09/30/2010  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've got awesome 1952 proofs but this Roosie isn't one of them. The haze is too thick to get a cameo designation and deep cameo is out of the question. I'd guess this one to be a PR62.

Now your Lincolns and Franklins are a different story. You've some great ones over there.
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 Posted 09/30/2010  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DylansDad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So would you dip it to remove the haze? I value any input greatly. The cameo is definitely there, and I'm pretty sure the haze would dip off, as if I had to guess it is from the cellophane.
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 Posted 09/30/2010  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see some blue on the coin, is that toning or reflection?
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Yes, I see the cameo but believe the haze is too thick for the designation. At least that's the way the images appear to me.

I've never had any luck dipping hazed proofs. I've tried a few and messed them up pretty bad, but they were more or less bullion anyway.

I'd look at this Roosie as a $10 coin and not worry about it unless you're assembling high-end 1952 proof sets for selling. Then you might want to play with it a bit.

Some of your others pieces are very nice and quite valuable as they are...
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 Posted 10/01/2010  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DylansDad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well thanks for your input. I'd appreciate your thoughts on the Jeffersons and Washingtons too. Actually all of the 1952's I've posted I intend to send to PCGS for grading and then they'll be going up for sale.

Your comments caused me to take a more cautious look at this coin and a few of the others to temper my expectations. These are going to be the first coins I've ever sent for grading so I'll definately learn a bit this time through.

I stopped at my dealer on my way into work this AM, and he dipped it for me...amazes me how quickly he dipped it and pulled it back out. It cleaned up nicely, but gave me a more realistic expectation of the chances at a cameo. He agreed that the obverse would likely make it, but that the reverse frost wasn't black/white enough. His thought was a 64 grade, non-cameo.

With my expectations tempered quite a little, I'm now debating that age old question "To slab, or not to slab?" I'm leaning towards paying for the education and seeing what it comes back at.
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I stopped at my dealer on my way into work this AM, and he dipped it for me

Please tell me that he rinsed the coin afterwards...
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Very well...in distilled water. He is quite knowledgeable and experienced. in fact I dropped him an e-mail this morning thanking him and indicating that he already has (and continues to earn) my trust and confidence that he has my best interest at heart.
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Whew, glad to hear that Many people dip a coin and then leave the residue which will form ugly spots at some point in the future, too many coins ruined that way
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As long as we're on the subject, do you know what he dipped it in? I'll take any recommendations on preferred choices, too. Also, what's the active ingredient in these dips, is it an acid? It's stripping away metal, that's why I ask that.
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He used E-Z-est as available here: http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pro...5-ounce.html that page has a link to the technical data on the product.

I need to emphasize he basically stuck it in and took it out and rinsed it off in distilled water. Down and out about that quick, it spent less than a second in the dip.
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Thanks, and for the link. It's amazing how these work. I've seen the same thing, though, although I've never used one of these dips, myself.
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Also, what's the active ingredient in these dips, is it an acid? It's stripping away metal, that's why I ask that.


E-Z-est has acid in it and does remove a minute layer of metal. I've used many times on AU and BU bullion coins with good effect. It is not something to use on any coin displaying noticeable wear because it will leave it looking unnatural. It's also best left to experts on proofs.
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E-Z-Est is composed of sulfuric acid and thiourea
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Excellent, guys, thank you!
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Well...got my grade back on this one. This turned out to be the home run of the grades I got back yesterday. PCGS graded it PR67CAM...PCGS's priceguide puts it at $600...they have only graded 8 higher!
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