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Newfounland Coin No Date. Composition; Silver - ?

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 Posted 10/04/2010  5:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is another coin from the collection of a friend of mine. Anyone know anything about this one?
Was it a circulation coin? Or was it some type of commemorative?
What about silver compostion & % of silver?

The center part of the reverse of the coin seems to be devoid of a date or any inscription whatsoever.

It weighs .40 oz or 11.2 grams and looks to be the same diameter of a half dollar.. It also sounds about like a silver half dollar when dropped on the table.

Thanks for any help you all

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 Posted 10/04/2010  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another one I'm confused about. Seems to be some sort of Churchill commemorative. It's larger in diameter of a typical Canadian silver dollar and it weighs .99 oz or 28.1 grams.

The reverse of the coin seems to be a bit "mushy" especially in the field around Churchhill. Almost like it was an overstrike - ?

Anyone have any guesses on this one?



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 Posted 10/04/2010  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is Newfoundland 50 cent, KM6, ASW .3504. Was someone prepping it for jewelry? The second one is from Great Britain, a 1 crown. Not worth very much, unless you love Churchill, then it is priceless I guess.
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For the great man he was... not a very flattering picture..
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And generally regarded as one of the ugliest coins of all time, at least by me....
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 Posted 10/05/2010  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies.

Jays-Dad; I'm not sure what KM6 is, but I take the ASW .3504 to mean opprox 35% silver right? Any ballpark estimates on the date?

I don't know what was going on with this coin before it came to my hands. But as time goes by I'm learning that people do all kinds of strange things to coins and often for even stranger reasons.

Just the other day I saw a a baby (about 10 mos old) wearing a slver dime as a necklace. I just had to ask the parents about it. The reason? They believed that it helps with a childs teathing process - must be a KY thing .

SHAFTA9a; That's about what I was thinking too. Looks kinda like he was ready to punch somone. Or just hadn't had his coffee yet .

latman100; Hey, the ugliest dogs win contests all the time. So maybe it's got something going for it - !

Just to clarify...the Churchill coin has no silver value at all? Too bad if not. I think there is one or two other smaller coins in this bunch that has Winston on them. Maybe I could appeal to someone who holds this iconic fella dear to them .

Anyone know anything about the silver content or other info on this coin. This is a shot of two identical coins - one showing the obv & one showing the rev. I haven't taken them out of the keepers they're in but from the look of the toning, I'm guessing they have some silver content.



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Thanks again for the input.



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 Posted 10/05/2010  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A KM number (KM6) refers to the catalogue number in the Krause catalogue of world coins. And unfortunately there is no silver in the Churchill crown.
ASW refers to the actual silver weight in ounces.
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 Posted 10/05/2010  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you latman. I'm certainly learning as I go. I lived the first 30+ years of my life without the internet - I don't know how I did it .
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 Posted 10/06/2010  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The NFLD coin is 92.5% silver and is one of the following: 1870,1872,1873,1874,1876H,1880,1881,1885,1888,1894,1896,1898
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Thank you fredor. That is some very useful information! If I recall correctly, that silver % is the same as early Canadian and British silver coinage. Those are very specific dates you've noted as well. If you don't mind sharing with us, where did you source your info from.

By the way it looks like you're due one of these .
Welcome to the CCF fredor.
Personally, I've found this to be a very friendly and helpful community for sharing numusmatic interests.

Thanks again.
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You'd think that someone who's into coins would know how to spell numismatics. Check my previous post . It helps to be ble to laugh at ones self. Something I find myself doing alot !
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 Posted 10/07/2010  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, there are 2 portraits for the NFLD Victoria Halves.
One with an upper lip that runs smooth into the nose(Portrait II) and and one that is indented before it runs into the nose(Portrait I). Your coin in the indented one.

This is an example of an 1888 Portrait I (The one you have)

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And here is an example of a portrait II that I just found on ebay as I didn't have any examples handy.

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The Portrait II is only found on the following dates:
1882H, 1896, 1898, 1899, 1900
You'll notice there is some overlap with the portrait I, those years there were 2 versions of the coins minted.

As for my source, I have the Charlton Standard Catalogue for Canadian Coins.

Newfoundland coins are my specialty and I can't wait to get them all.
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Anyone know anything about the silver content or other info on this coin. This is a shot of two identical coins - one showing the obv & one showing the rev. I haven't taken them out of the keepers they're in but from the look of the toning, I'm guessing they have some silver content.
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woohoo! I found it! VVV

https://goccf.com/t/64921
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 Posted 10/08/2010  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
fredor, Thank you for the additional info and pics. Great stuff! So, mine would actually be the 1888 or just there abouts? Hey, what does the reverse of the coin look like? I tried flipping yours over but it seems to be stuck inside this monitor thing sitting on top my kumpewter desk .

If I come accross any more NFLD coins I'll try to keep you in mind. I doubt my example would be of much interest to you.

IBGolden; Thank you very much for getting the details on those two coins. .925 silver huh? I couldn't have hoped for better. Nothin' wrong with 24.5 grams of sterling silver! I was just worried they were going to turn out to be silver plated.
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 Posted 10/12/2010  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey sorry that it took so long to reply,
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Here is what the reverse of that coin looks like.
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 Posted 10/13/2010  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
fredor;
Thank you for posting that image. Now I know what the reverse of mine is supposed to look like !
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