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Hi. I'd like to know which Canadian coins were minted in the US and what style mint marks the US used.
I ask because I've read that some "P" (plated) coins were minted in the US and they used a different size "P", making for some of our Canadian coins having the small "p" (the majority of our coins are small "p", and some showing a large "P" --- am thinking this large P may have been used by the US. Can anyone verify this for me please? My googling isn't finding the info again right now.
I'm curious to know which Canadian coins and which years the US may have minted for Canada, and which US mint made them for us.
Thanks a lot.
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Canada
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I only know about certain 1968 Canadian dimes minted in the US. (Oh and we get our copper-plated zinc cent planchets from the US too.)
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That's interesting to learn. Isn't 1968 the year we switched from silver to using different metals for most Canadian circulations coins? I'll have to google. Also interesting to learn we get our cent planchets from there too.
I haven't been able to spring for a Charlton guide this month like I hoped to, which I kind of assume would mention metals used and changing contents. I saw a copy of the 2011 guide and it looks great. Loaded with info and images! unlike the shorter version/less info book my library has.
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Canada
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oops, I answered this in another thread... As far as I know, since 1968 Canada has produced all of it's own coins. I see no reference to US production or US planchets in Charlton. Canada has imported US raw materials like rolled zinc but I believe we produce all our own planchets. Oh, there were "German" toonie planchets in 1996, but there is no distinguishing mark on those coins. That could be the only exception. The big "P" changed to a little "p" in 2003 when the Queen's crown came off. This had nothing to do with USA production. And as bibd pointed out above, there are US cent planchets but these are not distinguished by special composition marks... I wonder if they have the same weight and dimensions as Cdn planchets? 
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Some 1968 dimes are from Philadelphia. To find out which ones you have to look at the edge reeding. Philly's reeding looks like the top of a castle whereas Ottawa's reeding has sharp "V-dips" instead of flat "castle-tops" like Philly. And I don't think that any new coins are made in the US because Canada has a very different style of plating. Patented I believe. I could be wrong. Try e-mailing the Canadian Mint from their website mint.ca
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Hmmmmm, then I guess wherever I read that some of our newer P coins were minted in the US and used a different sized P to differentiate where minted is wrong information someone has posted on the web. I sure wish I could remember where I read that. If ever I can find that info again I'll try contact the person who wrote that and ask where and how he/she came by that info and ask how they might have verified it!!  I do remember about some reeded coins minted in the US and used a different reeding style so you can see which mint did them. I just didn't remember which coins or which mint in the US did them, so thanks for mentioning the dime!
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Oops, forgot to respond to the Toonie comments. I've read that the German prefabs of 1996 were made in one piece (core is part of the whole piece, so one-piece) whereas our Canadian made ones are two pieces (core separate but inset)
I guess it was our Canadian firsts Toonies ones that the core could and did pop out of the coin until they readjusted the design, but the German prefabs couldn't come apart because they were made all-one-piece. When the core is misaligned in the prefabs you see metal that shows the cores design but it will lack the core bronze plating, but in our Canadian mades you will see through (hollow) At least that's how I'm understanding the Toonies from reading about them in different sites.
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United States
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Libertad, Imn rtesponse to the question about the different small cent planchets, or blanks, I am very sure they are NOT the same. Even the alloy composition is the same, or nearly so, dep[ending on the dates involved, the plating is different. Our "zincolns" are famous for "self-destructing" with in a very short time after theu were introsduced in 1982. It is still a problem! I collect the Canadian small cent, and have never seen one, like the US cent. Hope tthis helps. Dick
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Canada
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The only Canadian coins made in the US were some of the 1968 nickel dimes, as identified above. Zinc blanks have been supplied by US companies, but they are struck in Canada.
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 Canada
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Thanks a lot Coinsnpaper :)
I wish I could find whatever site that was that's stating that one of the "P" sizes were minted in the States. I haven't come across it again as yet. Can't recall what kind of site either as I did visit a lot of googled up sites. I'll keep googling so I can try contact its owner about this info posted and maybe find out where he got his info from too while I'm at it ;)
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Canada
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someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it was the 96 twoonies that came apart. the german planchet,(made of two interlocked planchets of different metals),came already assembled, and were struck as one piece. I believe they were simply press fitted to each other, and the locking mechanism, (whatever it was) was not sufficient. OUR first planchets were made with a sort of tongue and groove design where the two pieces are inserted into the collar and the pressure of striking expands the tongue and groove into each other.
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Canada
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someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it was the 96 twoonies that came apart. the german planchet,(made of two interlocked planchets of different metals),came already assembled, and were struck as one piece. I believe they were simply press fitted to each other, and the locking mechanism, (whatever it was) was not sufficient. OUR first planchets were made with a sort of tongue and groove design where the two pieces are inserted into the collar and the pressure of striking expands the tongue and groove into each other.
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I think the toonie planchets were still from Italy, the first country with modern bimetallics, although I could be wrong...
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