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 Posted 11/01/2010  4:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rfrank99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
See Picture! 1793 Penny..Nice Find.Need some insight into this coin.

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 Posted 11/01/2010  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sincerely hope that coin is authentic, but given the rarity of chain cents, I would be extremely cautious. Is it in a TPG holder with a grade, or is it loose?
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 Posted 11/01/2010  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rfrank99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe its real.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a larger image?
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I hope for you its authentic, those Chain cents are pretty rare and very sought after. If anyone else was there and knows anything about coins I am guessing it cost you (no pun intended) a pretty penny. We would need better pictures to help you with a grade or to even begin to tell you an opinion on authenticity. I have to tell you the eye scares me a little but would still need bigger pictures to tell you anything else
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 Posted 11/01/2010  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a pretty cool looking coin. They are called chain cents? I need to do some more searching on these.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes they are chain cents, they are the first One Cent coin the US ever minted and only a short time in 1793. there were only 36,103 chain cents made in 1793 and there were 63,353 wreath cents minted in 1793 so the chain cent is very valuable and very rare and highly counterfeited because of this
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 Posted 11/01/2010  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
correct me if I'm wrong but,

The chain reverse has 13 links that were supposed to represent the linking or binding together of the 13 colonies to over take the british. However, many people saw the chain as the opposite, that it represented binding and oppression, so the Mint quickly changed the reverse to the wreath.

Kind of a cool story.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gundawg89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks interesting. Real or not, it still looks very old and would be worth getting checked out. Nice find!
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Larger, more detailed pics are needed. It looks good from the pictures but still need more detailed pictures to confirm authenticity. Many of these are counterfeited but, a good many survive in FR2-AG3 grades. Unfortunately, they also have corrosion issues or damage associated with them. Yours would seem to fit in this category if authentic.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't tell from those images but it certainly looks suspect. Here's a genuine example for reference:

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 Posted 11/01/2010  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would be an incredible find if it's authentic! Very well done. Is it in a slab?
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 Posted 11/01/2010  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Deltron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am hoping it's the real deal. Oh how I wish I could come across one of those babies.
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208 grains (13.48 grams). Observed range, 200-221 grains (12.96-14.32 grams).

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 Posted 11/02/2010  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I downloaded his picture of the reverse and blew it up and it sure looks like it has 15 links

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The chain reverse has 13 links that were supposed to represent the linking or binding together of the 13 colonies to over take the british. However, many people saw the chain as the opposite, that it represented binding and oppression, so the Mint quickly changed the reverse to the wreath.

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The reverse's central design figure, for which the coin is named, is an interlocking chain with 15 links, representing the 15 American states in existence at that time

So its 15 not 13. I still think this coin is questionable The neck is way to short, so I do not think this one is authentic



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I still think this coin is questionable


It is probably a copy per Bryan's comments; and also the location of "LIB" in LIBERTY on the obverse is far different than the genuine example.
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