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1995 LMC Missing Copper Plate?

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It's probably PMD but looks cool, what do you all think? The edge is really neat. Weights 2.5 and has no copper on it. Thanks all,
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The nominal weight if it never had copper should be about 2.44 grams. It almost looks like it has a very thin overplating of something and the reverse is very strange.
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Another fun day in the lab. Molten splash? Evidence of a wire welder?

That snow is pretty cool, the un-cameo from the underverse :)

Not sure what I'm seeing looking at the rim...weird.
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The "snow" is zinc oxide. Is it the same size as a normal Lincoln? The edge reminds me of a " Texas Cent" but the coin does not have the usual oversized appearance.
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I have a very similar coin but mine is a 1995 D, has the same rim and railroad looking overlaps as yours. Odd that your coin and mine are both 95's though. Here's the thread about it, but as a comment, my final thoughts on my coin were that someone tried to alter it to encase it in something like a bezel or loops of metal to use as a pendant or something. Who knows why whoever did it, did it, but me finding one here in Canada, and you (whereever) is interesting. Mine probably was last received by my neighbor in Toronto and he just tossed it in his penny jar.

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The copper is hiding under there.
Take a dremel with a polishing bit and whiz it :)
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By the way, your 1995 striated/raised lines and some of those accumulated raised metal lumpy lookings running with the lines is the same looks that I see on a lot of our newer Canadian cents. Striations and buildups lumps of metal. Is the striations from die polishing I wonder?
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John,

I have a similar cent, I think from 1995 (I don't have time to dig it out right now). I have a question about the reverse. What does the excess metal look like in hand that runs over the 2nd A in America to the base of the Memorial? Could that be copper?

The one I have has similar raised metal lines that look like they could be copper. It made me think it was plated but the copper was removes post-mint.
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I thought the excess looked like wire welding splash. Perhaps some arcing? Looks burnt at the FG.
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What would a lightening strike do to a zinc penny? Vaporize the copper?
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A lightning strike would not only vaporize the entire cent, but everything around it as well. I have seen three foot diameter craters, eighteen inches deep blown in creek beds (six inch river rocks, gravel, and sand) from a lightning storm in northern CA (we had over 20 strikes within 300 feet of our campsite). I once helped reapir an EBS radio that had been struck and over 100 feet of copper wire from the antenna to the transmitter was nowhere to be found. a coin lying on the ground well away from the point of entry might get some stray current that could cause damage but I don't think it would look like this cent (too "clean").
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Yours looks like it has some luster (shine) to it. Does it? Just curious. Mine has absolutely NO luster at all and not even a hint of copper color that I can see anywhere on it. Mine is also rough to the touch, like no plating was ever on it, or it was completely removed off the planchet. Any "shine" I see at all is more like matte zinc color points showing through just a very dark surface. The 1943 Steelie someone sent me recently is a bit lighter coloured (light charcoal gray) than my coin (medium dark charcoal gray)
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No luster and it feels a little rough.
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Yeah, lightning is too extreme but the welder in me still says electric arc.
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So sounds like your coin isn't plated either then if its rough and no luster. Never got plated or someone removed it. Curiouser. Was there some special science project in 1995 messing with the newest pennies minted to experiment I wonder, then released, like a message in a bottle and then watched out for any news about any being found? The great mystery of the Penny MIA Plating.
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What is the size of it in comparison to a normal cent? The edge is very suspect and strongly indicative of PMD. If a welder was anywhere near this coin it would be an unrecognizable lump of metal, the melting point for zinc is a lowly 787F.
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