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1808 Admiral Gardner Shipwreck Treasure Coin Pirate

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In terms of this coin's supposed history I am just going off of what I read from an ebay listing at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT Is this accurate or not?

Please confirm that the verbiage on this ebay post accurately describes my coin also.

I would like to know if my coin appears to be real and what its grade and value are based upon its following characteristics:

a) weight is 4.44 grams.

b) OD is 25.6 mm.

c) thickness is 1.31 mm.

Because this coin appears dark I also want to know what type of cleaning method would be most effective to lighten it up some without destroying the patina.

Would cleaning it in this to-be-recommended manner really add that much more to the resale value?

Thanks



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 Posted 11/17/2010  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The history on these coins is correct and yours might very well be one that was recovered. There were a lot of these coins minted and not all were on the Admiral Gardner. In any event leave the coin as is and don't try and clean it.
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Admiral Gardner website. Admiral Gardner EIC coppers are one of the most affordable "shipwreck coins"; while perhaps not as common as "Atocha" pieces-of-eight, they're much cheaper.

As a "shipwreck coin" it would have been cleaned somewhat after recovery - even "cold water and thick mud" won't prevent a shiny copper coin from reacting with seawater after 100 years.

The discolouration on the coin at the moment is a byproduct of it's immersion and later recovery; as such it's part of the coin's history and interest, and I would say that it should be kept intact along with its "shipwreck" provenance. If you want a nice, uncleaned, problem-free example of this coin, don't buy an Admiral Gardner one.

That ebay seller appears to be basically honest, though adding "pirate" to the auction title is somewhat of a stretch; the age of piracy was mostly over by 1809.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are better examples of this coin available in a few places on-line that are in much better shape with the COA for about the same money. I would look around before buying that one.
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I think yours is better than mine.It's better not to clean

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