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 Posted 11/17/2010  01:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm out of my element here. I have read just a small amount about these old coins and have never held one in my hand. I believe this is an Alexander silver drachm. That being said I think maybe this one is sub par on a few levels.
Is it cleaned to look so bright?
The text at the edge is mostly off the coin, I would think it was a bad (hammer) strike... if such a thing existed (I'm used to more modern old coins lol).

How can one tell the aprox date?

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 Posted 11/17/2010  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While Greek coins are not my area of collecting, this is a nice example and I would like to have one. The strike isn't bad and is typical for this type of coin and appears to me to be a genuine.
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There is enough of the legend to tell that it is indeed a coin of Alexander (the Greek letters ...XANDR... are clearly readable). However, not only were there several kings of this time period named "Alexander", coins in the name of Alexander the Great himself were struck for about 200 years after he died. Dating them is tricky.

However, one rule of thumb is that during Alexander's lifetime, the depiction of the seated Zeus on the reverse changed sightly: early coins depict Zeus's legs side by side, while later coins depict him with legs crossed. Your coin has crossed legs, so it's either late lifetime or a posthumous issue.

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Is it cleaned to look so bright?

All ancient coins have been cleaned at some point, because all ancient coins that are around today were dug up sometime in the past 500 years. So "cleaning" isn't as bad as it is on modern coins. Coins can be "overcleaned", but from those pics I wouldn't say that yours was.

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I would think it was a bad (hammer) strike...

Collectors of modern coins sometimes get surprised when they see ancient coins that are off-centre, double-struck or with other "mint errors". This is normal, given the way coins were made back then - by a guy with a big hammer using hand-carved dies. Such "errors" are common in ancient and mediaeval coins. It's the well-struck, fully centred coins that are scarce and collect a premium.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies.
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 Posted 11/22/2010  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One more question and then I'll stop bugging everyone

Do people send these old coins in to be graded and if so is it a good idea or not?
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From what I have heard, they are usually not graded by a TPG because there is not that much to compare them too. Like... what would be a MS..or an XF..The only coins I have seen "certified" are high end gold coins, mainly for authenticity. I am sure Sap or someone else more knowledgeable will chime in... but I will say normally no these coins are not slabbed.
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I guess I was thinking more along the line of being certified as authentic rather than an actual grade. When I get it I just want to be sure I spent my hard earned cash on a genuine piece of history instead of a genuine piece of... well you know lol.
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There are alot of them out there,but they are VERY popular-$80-100 coin.Yours is in very nice condition.Being cleaned at some point is no problem.Its worth getting slabbed-it will sell for more & that is a coin that will always be sought after and that one is nice,if its real,which I believe it is-Alexander is Great
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