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How would you guys grade this, and does the patina have an effect on the grade or value of the coin?   Edited by Kingz
11/25/2010 10:37 pm
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is that a grade? Or are you referring to the patina?
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Australia
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The "green patina" that you are describing is verdigris which is better known as copper corroded under various environment.
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Ignoring the corrosion. F-12 details?. What do you folks think?
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Netherlands
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I would pay that all day long, €0,50  In which country is that if I may ask Torres? Because these are not so common on the (Dutch) market if I'm correct  On E-bay,com there are only a handfull every now and then, the cheapes now is around $8 (1840 I'm talking about). Also the picture is absolutly horrible, if I hold it in hand it looks much better. And the patina is way more stylish then these pics. It won't be worth much I agree.... But 50 cents?  |
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Interesting detail (I'm not getting involved in the value argument  ) - in a way this coin reminds me of paper notes. The notes are (supposed to be) backed by precious metals, and this coin, while it is copper, states on it that it is worth "half kopeck in silver". |
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$1 ? / $0,50 ? Where do you guys get these numbers.... ok it's not a relic of a coin, but I thought it was a bit worth more than a buck Maybe it is because these coins are more common in Russia or Bulgaria... But again if I check ebay international and sites a like, it will not sell below $5 or something. Here are some better pictures, maybe that will make a difference     But seriously, I don't want to come across like a whining kid...  But I notice these matters more often, in one place a coin is cheap another place it will be more difficult to get so it may be a bit more expensive ( in general terms ) I'm guessing a lot of different factors play a part in this subject... ah well I leave it at this I guess, I'm happy with the coin anyway  |
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Hey Svslav, that is a very interesting detail indeed... I wouldn't know because I can't read Russian  Could it maybe be a fake one, because I read somewhere that there were a lot of fakes made by the Ottomans in the area of Anatolia! The text is in Dutch on another forum, but it goes into depth about how the Ottomans wanted to destroy the economy of the Russian Tsar by making fake coins and putting it into circulation. I tried to translate it with google, but it was to messy  And it's too long and complicated for me too translate unfortuanetly. So I will post your comment on the Dutch site, and wait for reactions  |
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Here are some better pictures  I like the first set of pictures better. I agree the price/value of a coin depends a lot on demand & supply, and the pricing could be a total hit-or-miss. Here, in US, in some shops you can find those in scratch trays, 4 to 8 coins for a dollar, or someone could put it in a 2x2 and write a price of $5. Looking at my Krause I see a tag of $2. I do not believe the Turks forged tiny coppers, if they did it, it would be with the notes - otherwise too much hassle. Though I should admit that while this kinda rings a bell but I don't really know the story. But this coin is supposed to be copper, it's just valued by the silver standard. |
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Posted 11/25/2010 11:13 pm
