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 Posted 12/02/2010  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think folks should at least buy Mint State Morgans rather than circulated ones. If silver takes the "big plunge", you will at least be backstopped by the numismatic value of the coins.

And, if silver rallies to $100 an ounce, I would expect the numismatic value to also increase due to higher overall demand for coins so in that case you might end up with a dollar that has $75 of silver value and $40 of numismatic value. Not a bad return on a $40 initial investment and you don't have as much downside risk.
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 Posted 12/02/2010  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Much of the silver used in film was recycled, so the net loss wasn't all that great. Silver's main role through history until recently was as a monetary metal and store of value, and that purpose is being rediscovered.
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 Posted 12/02/2010  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@fenton: That's what I keep saying. You could buy "junk" on the cheap, but if silver prices fall you're stuck with unsellable junk on the bottom tier of the desirability ladder. Get the best grade possible EVERY TIME.
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 Posted 12/02/2010  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know guys...I bought a load of silver this summer along with some nice slabbed Morgans.....I've dumped some of the silver to almost double my money...but I sure can't make anything on the Morgans right now.
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 Posted 12/02/2010  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnstac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard for decades that no matter what precious metals are doing, to always buy quality (MS 60+) coins. I'm not sure in the case of Morgans. When you can buy these at melt or lower, what can you possibly lose? Sure, silver can go down but if I am buying Morgans for about $20 there is not much downside on the series, age and grade so if at some point, Morgans gain wide popularity, that is another plus.
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Much of the silver used in film was recycled, so the net loss wasn't all that great. Silver's main role through history until recently was as a monetary metal and store of value, and that purpose is being rediscovered.
The source (new versus recycled) is irrelevant. The source of recycled silver did not just disappear. It is now going to other uses, which increases the supply (for other uses) and therefore should decrease prices.
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johnstac, I see your point...but I bought MS64...I suppose it depends on your interpretation of "quality".
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 Posted 12/02/2010  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The market is up, the dollar is up, some gain in employment and our economy, gold, silver and the metals are up WHY? Big Money likes paper investments and control the market value.Real security comes only with a usable commodity in hand. Silver coins have real value as collector items and also a metal value. We have the best of both worlds. Have fun, enjoy life, work your collection, buy and sell but remember what goes up may go lower. No guarantees in life.
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 Posted 12/02/2010  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Regardless of whether it goes up or down, I'm loooooooooonnngggg and never selling! I know I can't take it with me, but I don't plan to.
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 Posted 12/03/2010  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fistfull, I agree with you. I too am long in collectible silver and gold. No more paper for me and the hassle of brokers phone calls. The silver you obtained in 2010 has double value. Collectible and melt. In my thinking you have done well. Enjoy
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 Posted 12/03/2010  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me, I've been buying a lot of $40 or $50 Morgans:

This price range affords better coins than common bullion-value Morgans,
and if Silver goes past $50 an oz., I have better Morgans for melt value.

True, that was Mitsui Mining's hype about the silver catalytic converters,
but I found it interesting nonetheless that they were stated as being for
diesel engines specifically. One wonders why they wouldn't work for gasoline engines.
(the difference in exhaust gas temperature? gas composition?)

In other words, if silver catalysts work only on diesel engines,
platinum wouldn't totally drop like a stone. Lots of gasoline-powered
cars are on the planet. And jbuck makes a very good point
about nanotechnology reducing the need for any precious metal in a
catalytic converter, long term.
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 Posted 12/03/2010  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Make sure you have an honest mechanic.
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Good point, Libertad

Dishonest mechanics would install silver catalytic converters
on gasoline-powered cars and pocket the cost difference.

The new (platinum) converter for my car last month cost $89.
If there was a mass-produced $20 silver catalytic converter,
the crook mechanic would pocket $70 and the customer probably
would not even know until they failed an emissions test. Ouch!
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And jbuck makes a very good point about nanotechnology reducing the need for any precious metal in a catalytic converter, long term.
My car has a nanotech converter on it.


The use of silver as a catalyst on diesel appears to be because of the fuel's higher silver content...

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PNNL researchers have also discovered that silver hollandite is an excellent low-temperature sulfur oxides absorbent. Unlike most oxidation catalysts, which can be easily poisoned by sulfur oxides, silver hollandite maintains its catalytic activity even while it ages by absorbing sulfur oxides.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...11105720.htm
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 Posted 12/03/2010  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnstac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, even I didn't expect prices to move up this quickly. In an earlier post, someone mentioned silver at $30 by the end of this month. It's at something like 29.30 right now!
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