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Some Sort Of Great Britain Penny? Help Please! | Love Token

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 Posted 11/30/2010  4:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tomten to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey there!

I've got this coin in my collection.. One side looks like a normal penny. However the other side is different.. see for yourself. Can't find any information of a such coin.. It's also holed.

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Thanks for any information!

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 Posted 11/30/2010  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's what is known as a "love token". It's a normal British penny, whcich has had the reverse ground down until it's flat, then had this new design carved onto it. This was presumably done by somebody with the initials "WCP".
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 Posted 11/30/2010  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's a love token I assume it was rather done for somebody with the initials "WCP". Or at least by a WSP's admirer.
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 Posted 12/01/2010  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tomten to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks alot! I'm going crazy by all the british tokens.. Are there any worth to these tokens or is it just to go ebay and hope for the best? :)

By the way, anyone know any "WCP"? ;)

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If it's a love token I assume it was rather done for somebody with the initials "WCP". Or at least by a WSP's admirer.

It's my understanding that it usually worked the other way around.

Hypothetical scenario: WCP is a guy who meets and falls in love with a girl, but he's joined the Navy and is about to set sail for who knows how long. So he has the token made with his initials on it and gives it to her, to remind her of him. Perhaps a matched pair was made, and WCP kept one with her initials on it. In the age before photography, a love token was a cheap yet enduring way to be remembered.

A particular category of love token that's very popular with collectors here in Australia are convict love tokens, given by prisoners sentenced to transportation to Australia to their loved ones before they left. These usually are quite well made, and give details of the prisoner's sentencing or carry poignant pleas to not be forgotten while they languished in chains on the far side of the world. Apparently there were people that specialized in producing these items on behalf of sailors and convicts. Tokens that can be linked to specific convicts are most highly sought after.

As for the value of this piece, if you don't know who the original WCP was (and unless it was a family heirloom, you're not likely to know) then it has sadly become detached from it's context, it's story, a fate all too commonly seen with these pieces. It's not in particularly good condition, either; it would probably fetch a few dollars as a curiosity, perhaps more if a modern-day WCP saw it.
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Aye I read some about the convict love tokens on the web. However this just seems like an "ordinary" love token. I don't think it has anything with my family to do really, my grandpa collected things, as stamps and coins and I don't really have any idea how he got hold of this token. I like the details of the carvings though, didn't see anything this detailed on ebay when I quick-browsed it.

Thanks for everything!
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OK, Sap, thanks, interesting info.
Actually it doesn't surprise me. When I served in the army I encountered this phenomenon when big burly guys bursting with machismo and always ready to haze younger and "weaker" ones spend hours at night working on their "memory albums" adorning pages of their photographs with cheesy flowery designs and writing sappy rhymes about love.
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