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pateio New Member United States 27 Posts	Posted 08/30/2006 11:32 am So How does one tell if its a proof? or for that matter a cameo? Are we still at au? I finally got these uploaded most the scratches and all the smudges are on the lens she has a scratch on her nose and 3 light ones on her cheek thank you all for your help Image: MVC-055S.jpg 42.36 KB Image: MVC-047S.jpg 39.56 KB Image: 1859a1.jpg 41.72 KB Image: 1859obv.jpg 21.24 KB Edited by pateio 09/06/2006 04:45 am Report this Post to the Staff

jdheyne Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 08/30/2006 3:24 pm Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately, the pictures are not very well to get a accurate grade. It looks like it should be AU+, but it is very hard to tell... To determine if proof, I believe something on the edge is the key. I heard one time a while ago how to tell, but I have not had to tell yet so I do not know. Others should chime in shortly. Enjoy! Report this Post to the Staff
Buffaloboy5 Pillar of the Community United States 604 Posts	Posted 08/30/2006 3:34 pm Can you lighten up the backround because it's hard to tell because I can't really see the 59 in 1859 and the reverse looks really dark please lighten up Report this Post to the Staff
Tpatna Pillar of the Community United States 1626 Posts	Posted 09/01/2006 02:46 am Well I'm not that great at grading, but I like to practice. I will say EF-40. The LIBERTY is sharp, but slight wear on the ribbon end. As far as proof or cameo, I cannot tell. Thanks for the practice. Tim Report this Post to the Staff
dsking Pillar of the Community United States 2365 Posts	Posted 09/01/2006 10:09 am Metalman will be able to determine whether this little Indian is/was a Proof. It would certainly not grade as such now. I'm very tough on Indians and would agree with tpatna as an EF40, maybe 45. I noticed a few "dings" and the ribbon and headdress appear worn. This one is very close in grade to yours:http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...&cat=0&pos=0 Edited by dsking 09/01/2006 10:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
scoutjim99 Pillar of the Community United States 4589 Posts	Posted 09/06/2006 04:51 am Wait a minute that was triggersmob's post for the most worn coin that I saw a british 1874 Piece. really Am I missing some thing here Report this Post to the Staff
pateio New Member United States 27 Posts	Posted 09/06/2006 05:23 am keep in mind the smudges are on the lens not the coin Report this Post to the Staff
dsking Pillar of the Community United States 2365 Posts	Posted 09/06/2006 10:42 pm EF-40 at the most. Report this Post to the Staff
jdheyne Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 09/06/2006 11:23 pm Going by the pics, I would still think AU. But that could change one way or the other by actually seeing the coins, as the pics are still not the best. Do you have a compact digital camera that you can use the "macro" function on, and avoid camera shake? Report this Post to the Staff
dsking Pillar of the Community United States 2365 Posts	Posted 09/06/2006 11:59 pm EF-45 requires a clear Liberty (which it has) AND strong, clear diamonds on the ribbon (which appear worn off). Also there should be atleast some luster (which I don't see). Granted the pics are poor and the luster may be difficult to see. I would not accept this coin in EF-45 without seeing the diamonds. Perhaps better pics and yes, a macro close-up would certainly help. Indians are my coin of choice and I try to stick with the grading requirements to the letter! I've seen too many that are way over graded thus, over priced without short term or long term benefits. Edited by dsking 09/07/2006 12:00 am Report this Post to the Staff
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