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stmpcol Valued Member United States 223 Posts	Posted 08/31/2006 4:06 pm I know from trying to get Image: 1891.jpg 61.68 KB Image: 1891 001.jpg 61.06 KB my silver dollars in order this is called toning. I have all the indians from 1887 forward in varying conditions, VF to UNC and this is the only one that has any discoloration. Deep blue hue. And who came up with this toning anyway. To me this is a garbage silver dollar, left to the elements and changed color. Whoever came up with this toing idea and sold it to the coin collecting public, with a heavy premium, should have teamed up with Warren Buffet. Together they could have owned the whole world... Report this Post to the Staff

jdheyne Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 08/31/2006 4:21 pm I once thought the same way of toning as you do. But after time, there are some coins that just look spectacular when they are toned. I will never pay a premium for toning, but I would probably buy it a little quicker. I doubt any one person came up with this toning idea. Just collectors all over started to like certain tones, which eventually drives prices up. But back to the Indian, I do not see anything in your pictures out of the ordinary... Jordan Report this Post to the Staff
stmpcol Valued Member United States 223 Posts	Posted 08/31/2006 4:53 pm Guess I'm gonna invest in a camera. It doesn't show the true color but as soon light hits it, it's got deepest blue hue I've ever seen. Report this Post to the Staff
The_Cave_Troll Valued Member United States 218 Posts	Posted 09/01/2006 12:14 am Proof IHC's when dipped in MS-70 (a commercial coin dip) retone a beautiful blue color that both NGC and PCGS (to a lesser extent) have deemed to be market acceptable (they will usually slab them as NT). I doubt that is what has happened to yours, but if you want to read about the hubub it has caused then go the the PCGS/NGC forums and search for "blue indian" and read about it ad nauseum. Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 09/01/2006 01:23 am I agree with The_Cave_Troll, alot of people will not even think of buying a Blue IHC, they think it is AT all the way no matter what the TPG's call market acceptable toning because it was usually caused by a chemical and most of them think of that as coin doctoring when a foreign material changes the color of a coin, even though there may be some natural things that will cause the same effect just most IHC collectors will shy away from a Blur IHC no matter what TPG slab its in just because theer is a possibility it is from the chemical mentioned above. It seems totally different with silver coins like morgans/ They love the blues/greens/purples and any other color in the rainbow and will pay a premium for nicely toned coins, even though each and everyone of them know it can be replicated sometimes with something as simple as heat (and alot of the times are AT) but they take their chances. It is just one of the hobby anomolies to me how toning on one coin can be taboo and on another it can be desirable no matter how it got there Report this Post to the Staff
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