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Why I Prefer To Collect Circulated Versus Uncirculated US

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[This is a repost from another board, for those who happen not to frequent the NGC forums.]

I thought it would be fun to put down my thoughts on the topic of why a collector (like myself) prefers to collect circulated coinage versus uncirculated coinage. There are some obvious and not-so-obvious reasons. The only uncirculated coins I own in my collection are moderns or very common late 19th century early 20th century coins. Of course, I love early proofs (no wear thank you...I don't like 'em impaired), but that's a whole different story. Here's the list:

1. The single biggest and most obvious reason is cost. Yes, if the cost is a simple linear change between grades and it's not a huge jump in price (it's all relative and depends on the series), then uncirculated might make sense. However, for the 19th century coinage I've collected, that's generally not the case. UNC's are usually much, much more expensive.

2. I have an easier time grading and "understanding" circulated coins. Also, in coordination with the first reason, there's usually not a massive jump in price with a single grade point spread like in the UNC's. Yes, you can probably come up with a myriad of examples where there are such spreads Like Fine and Very Fine mid-20's Buffalo nickels, but I'm trying to be somewhat general. I have an easier time knowing what I'm looking at and knowing if it looks like it has been processed or not. I have a much more difficult time with UNC's for some reason. I need more experience, yes, but my comfort zone is with circulated coinage. Oh...and, yes, I can still get totally pooched on a coin that I discover later a problem I didn't know to look for or didn't think much of at the time. I've been schooled more times than I care to admit on the purchase of various 19th century UNC's (or so-called UNC's).

3. Usually, I buy the coins raw and I can handle them. For some strange reason, if I buy a coin in a slab, I shy away from wanting to crack it out. I tell myself, I'm buying a particular coin to crack out and it never happens. Unless it's a high priced coin or I prefer a slab for authentication and/or protection, I'll go for a raw coin. It's neat to be able to hold onto a piece of history...carefully!...and even let friends and family partake in that privelege. These coins were made for commerce, they're "used", and they were meant to be handled. Light handling won't hurt a coin that's already VF/XF, as long as it's done with care and rarely.

4. I aim for VF-AU coins which should be easier to find than UNC's, but not always. I usually don't like anything below VF unless the coin is extremely difficult to find in that grade (or better) or extremely expensive. For example, I own a choice F-12+ 1872 2¢. I've been looking for over 2 years for a better grade and a reasonable looking coin. No luck. I like my coins to basically show full or nearly full detail. Even in VF that's generally the case, as long as it's a halfway decent strike.

I'm curious to hear what you folks have to say on the topic. I realize there are those of you who disdain circulated coins and only go after the cream of the crop. More power to you. I wish I had the type of funds to collect the variety of coins I have in UNC, but I don't. Plus, when you show off these coins to lay people, they tend to understand the age and connect with the history a bit better if the coin looks like it was "used" a bit.

I love coin collecting. And, I love to share it with people. Let's hear your thoughts.

Bruce
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Very, very nicely put. In the broadest sense, collecting uncirculated coins can be viewed as a logical process, while collecting circulated coins is an emotional one. To me they're almost two entirely different genres.

I began collecting uncirculated Morgans, and found myself bored (and broke) rather quickly. Having sidestepped into a specialty, I find it necessary to buy whatever I can get of some VAM's, and it's helped me develop a greater appreciation for the character of a circulated coin. In fact, I'm hedging my bets by branching out into VF-XF Busties, which are (to me) very attractive coins.
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Well most of my older stuff is circulated. I am with you on the cost of UNC I don't have the funds for the shiney new ones. I have proof and mint sets and some rolls of the new nickels, but I don't buy a lot of individual UNC coins.
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I'm collecting morgans, both UNC and Circulated. The more common ones that I can afford (as a 14 year old) are in UNC. The rest are circulated. I also have a complete circulated set of Jeffersons, with some UNC in there too.
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Some of the neatest coins in my collection I've fished out of the change the customers bring in to be counted. (See "The strangest thing I have ever found" thread that's a few pages back.) Even most of my Morgans are EF or AU. There's just something about wondering where this particular coin has been and who has handled it that I like. The only coins that I make a point to get in UNC are my Euros, and I've even found a few of them in circulation!

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I have both circulated and uncirculated. The UNC's are primarily bullion, ASE's and World. I too love the history and imagining where the circulated coins have been. There's nothing more interesting to me than holding a Civil War Era coin in my hands!
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I LOVE circulated. VERY circulated. As a matter of fact, my favorite coins are basically culls or junk silver. Just today I got a few "very worn" Morgans. You know what ? I could not like them better if they were in MS state. I like to wonder what all the coin has been spent on in 130 years or whatever the age may be. That coin might have fed a family back then for a week or a month or what-ever. To me that is what makes them cool. Granted, a MS coin is a beautiful thing as well. Just my thoughts however.......
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I too collect both Circulated and Uncirculated. I collect uncirculated morgans, franklins, Jeffersons and Roosevelt dimes but I my Type set is all circulated coins as well as my Mercury dimes. If I can afford I would buy Uncirculated. But Usually I do like coins with nice luster and lot of details.
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I love circulated coins, and so does my pocket - they have character as well as history. I do have a few uncirculated coins, butin my humble opinion, an uncirculated coin has never been anywhere except in a mint bag, or a TPG slab. As beautiful as they might be, they just don't have any character. I suppose I prefer to think of myself as a collector rather than an investor, and, frankly, I love my circulated coin collection.
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The thing I love about circ coins(apart from the price)is the history that could be behind them.I always like to think of who's pocket my coins could have been in.For instance I have an English shilling from 1888 and it is possible that this coin could have been in Jack the rippers pocket!!I know that was a morbid example but here in NZ we also have the WW2 age US coins that came over with the troops that defended us from imperial Japan,the older coins that arrived with the whalers and the coins that came with the gold miners.
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Yea, I agree grouse12. I always wonder if any of my circulated Morgans were in Billy the Kids, Jesse James, or Wyatt Erp's pocket

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I collect 1878 Morgan VAM's and even though all I have collected so far have been labeled as BU I am sure they were circulated a short period of time. I am definately spending about every penny I have collecting these things but I just cant bring myself to buy a circulated peice when I know there is a BU peice out there of the same VAM. That being said, there are some coins in the 1878 VAM series that none are known in Uncirculated condition, so when I get to them if I havent already found the one uncirculated example of that VAM I will have to lower my standards but as of now every 1878 I have is BU (although some are close to MS60 some others are as high as MS66 and finest examples known)
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