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I was wondering if anyone knew why so many countries other than England still put the queen on their coins. Is it like a tradition thing or is there some other reason for it?
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 Posted 09/01/2006  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They still fall under Briitan as a protectorate etc.
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The United Kingdom is a political union made up of four constituent countries: England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. The United Kingdom also has several overseas territories, including Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. The dependencies of the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, while possessions of the Crown and part of the British Isles, are not part of the United Kingdom. A constitutional monarchy, the United Kingdom has close relationships with fifteen other Commonwealth Realms that share the same monarch — Queen Elizabeth II — as head of state.

A Commonwealth Realm is any one of the 16 sovereign states of the Commonwealth of Nations that separately recognise Queen Elizabeth II as their monarch. In each Realm she is the monarch of that state, and is titled accordingly. For example, in Barbados, she is known as "Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Barbados", or, simply, the Queen of Barbados.

Outside the United Kingdom, the Queen, on the advice of the prime minister of each Realm, appoints a Governor-General to act as her vice-regal representative. She is also represented by a Governor in each state of Australia, by a Lieutenant-Governor in each province of Canada and by a Queen's Representative in the Cook Islands. Within the UK, the Queen appoints Counsellors of State to perform her duties in her absence. These officials exercise almost all the powers of the constitutional monarch with mostly symbolic, figurehead duties, but they also have reserve powers, called the Royal Prerogative.

Fourteen of the Realms are former British self-governing colonies that have evolved into independent countries. Three of these, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, effectively achieved independence as a result of a process started by agreements reached at the 1926 Imperial Conference which were embodied in the Balfour Declaration. This declaration was implemented in 1931 by the Statute of Westminster. As a result, Canada, the Union of South Africa, and the Irish Free State all immediately obtained legislative independence from the United Kingdom. Australia and New Zealand achieved the same status after their parliaments ratified the Statute, in 1942 and 1947 respectively (Australia's ratification being back-dated to 1939). The statute also covered Newfoundland, but it was never ratified there, and the dominion reverted to colonial status in 1934, eventually joining Canada in 1949.

Commonwealth Realms are, in alphabetical order:

Antigua and Barbuda Antigua and Barbuda, since independence in 1981
Australia Australia, since adoption of the Statute of Westminster in 1942 (retroactive to 1939)
Bahamas The Bahamas, since independence in 1973
Barbados Barbados, since independence in 1966
Belize Belize, since independence in 1981
Canada Canada, since the Statute of Westminster in 1931
Grenada Grenada, since independence in 1974
Jamaica Jamaica, since independence in 1962
New Zealand New Zealand, since adoption of the Statute of Westminster in 1947
Papua New Guinea Papua New Guinea, since independence in 1975
Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Kitts and Nevis, since independence in 1983
Saint Lucia Saint Lucia, since independence in 1979
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, since independence in 1979
Solomon Islands Solomon Islands, since independence in 1978
Tuvalu Tuvalu, since independence in 1978
United Kingdom United Kingdom
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 Posted 09/01/2006  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good info Dsking I can use that to build my british world set
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 Posted 09/01/2006  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jim! I tried to find a short way to say all that but, I'll give credit where credit is due...I extrapolated from my friend "Wikipedia"!! Yes, that would come in handy for a World set wouldn't it. I'm glad that I posted and especially glad that it helps you with your set too!
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 Posted 09/01/2006  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichirensha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info dsking, Thanks!
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 Posted 09/02/2006  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent background info there dsking.

The New Zealand crown sized dollar coins of 1979, 1980, 1981 and 1982 had around a specially approved effigy of Queen Elizabeth II by by James Berry O.B.E., F.R.N.S.N.Z., of Wellington, New Zealand, the words "Elizabeth II Queen of New Zealand".

I have seen something similar on the 1977 Silver Jubilee coin of Papua New Guinea.

QE2 is Queen of Australia. Here in the Australian State of Queensland, the right wing National Party government in the 1970s fearing the Federal Labour Party Government of the time might move to a republic, enacted that Elizabeth II was Queen of Queensland into the State constitution. A national referendum held in about 1999, upheld Australia as a Constitutional Monarchy, because the republic camp were split over the proposed Republican Head of State model put forward as the alternative by the conservative Liberal/National Coalition Government.

As for Fiji, I am unsure of their current status following two coups there where they declared themself a Republic and were suspended from the Commonwealth after each coup. The coins there again bear H.M. Queen Elizabeth II's effigy.

There is the Commonwealth of Nations of which the Queen is head. And ever 2 years she presides over the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM).

The Commonwealth Games were recently held in Melbourne, Australia.

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 Posted 09/02/2006  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Besides the independent nations on dsking's list, there are plenty of other coin-issuing colonies and dependencies featuring the Queen's portrait.

The Channel Islands (Jersey, Guernsey, etc) and the Isle of Man issue their own coins, as do the colonies of Saint Helena-Ascension, Gibraltar, Turks & Caicos Islands, Falkland Islands, Pitcairn Island, Hong Kong (until recently) and many others. There are other "dependent states" indirectly linked to Britain eg. Tokelau, Niue and the Cook Islands are dependencies of New Zealand. I seem to recall writing up a full list in my coin club Magazine some time ago; I can find it and reprint it here if you like.

Not all the nations in dsking's list use the Queen's portrait, either. Barbados, Belize, Jamaica and PNG normally only put the Queen on coins with a "royal theme" eg. a royal visit.

As for Fiji, technically they're a Republic. She's presumably still on their coins largely out of tradition - I guess they haven't thought of anything better to put there. I notice her portrait has "frozen" into the middle-aged one officially used in the late 1980's when the military coup happened. Most other Commonwealth countries use an updated, more elderly-looking portrait today.
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quote:
Originally posted by dsking

...Fourteen of the Realms are former British self-governing colonies that have evolved into independent countries. Three of these, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, effectively achieved independence as a result of a process started by agreements reached at the 1926 Imperial Conference which were embodied in the Balfour Declaration. This declaration was implemented in 1931 by the Statute of Westminster. As a result, Canada, the Union of South Africa, and the Irish Free State all immediately obtained legislative independence from the United Kingdom. Australia and New Zealand achieved the same status after their parliaments ratified the Statute, in 1942 and 1947 respectively (Australia's ratification being back-dated to 1939)...



OK, I'm confused. I've always thought it was 1901 that Australia became an independent country. If this actually happened in 1942, backdated to 1939...then what was 1901 about?
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Originally posted by toast

OK, I'm confused. I've always thought it was 1901 that Australia became an independent country. If this actually happened in 1942, backdated to 1939...then what was 1901 about?


"The Commonwealth of Australia came into being on Tuesday 1 January 1901. The Federation Pavilion in Sydney's Centennial Park, which had been designed by Walter Vernon, New South Wales Government Architect, was the focus of the inauguration ceremonies.

"At 10.30am starting at the Domain a procession comprising military bands, troops, police, firefighters, stock-men and heads of church and synagogue, representatives of the University of Sydney, foreign governments, trade unions and government officials set out.

"It followed a five mile route through the streets of Sydney which were decorated with triumphal arches (erected by various citizen's committees), flags and bunting and was watched by large crowds."

(Above text directly quoted from NSW Government Records web site)



"Before 1 January 1901 "Australia" the nation did not really exist. Although Gondwanaland, as the great southern land mass was known in Europe, has been around for millions of years, and Aboriginal people have lived on the land longer than anyone can remember, "Australia" the nation is very young indeed.

"The nation of Australia was created when six separate colonies became states and were united - that is, federated. By working together the states could become stronger than separate colonies alone. They would pool their resources to look after defence, immigration, local industry and trade. Together they could achieve common safety, common population management - and a commonwealth.

"Previously they had tended to compete with each other, sometimes to a ridiculous extent. Take this example of what it was like travelling between colonies before Federation. A family was travelling interstate from Adelaide on an express train.

"When they arrived in Melbourne they had their luggage searched at customs in front of railway porters and other travellers. Many countries had to go through dreadful civil wars before they achieved nationhood. Gradually, deliberately and peacefully the people of the six separate colonies chose to be a single nation."

(Above text directly quoted from History-smiths web site)
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I was in hopes that you all would contribute to my list and info. I figured that it was incomplete to a point. And yes, some of the "Countries" have chosen not to portray the Queen. Please remember folks that I just extrapolated this info from Wikipedia. I don't have the memory cells to remember all of that anymore! I'm sure that there is plenty of room for "adjustments" and "errors". I'm glad that you have added your comments.
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