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 Posted 09/03/2006  4:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jetsetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can someone help me ID these two coins?

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 Posted 09/03/2006  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top one looks like 1/4 gulden (Austria, Germany,)maybe.
and the bottom one a british 6 pence token of some sort.
can you read and type in the inscriptions words and or legends. and on the top one I know one side has a tree like picture what does the other side look like. By the way welcome to the forum
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 Posted 09/03/2006  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From those particular pics it is hard to tell. I know the larger one says 6 pence but the flash on the rest of it just kills any other info. the other one I cannot figure out yet. I know it is holed and it is a ¼ something.

I brightened the rest of the coin in my photo editing software and can make out South Wales and Bristol Token on the big one now. Looks on the other side to have a date of 1811. I believe these were issued by independent companies due to coin shortages. Remember, the War of 1812 was around this period and no telling what the Brits were up to a year earlier. I am not sure as to the value however. Does it appear to be silver?

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Thank you for the welcome.

One the first one it appears to be a mountain(really not sure on that) with a sun or circle on the left.

On the second one it reads:

Front: Somersetshire Wiltshire Gloucestershire, Pence 6, South Wales and Bristol Token.

Back: Bristol payable by W Sheppard Exchange, Sept 6 1811.
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That little holed one is really tough. I can't find any info on it at all. I am thinking if it is a Gulden then that would be Netherlands or maybe one of their colonies. On the side where the denomination is it looks like a tree and I can't see the other side at all.

I tried to brighten this one also. I can see a date on the reverse side where you said you saw a mountain. However, I can't make out the whole date. All I could see was 1?51. I'm thinking that is probably 1751 from the looks of the coin.


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After looking at the small coin again it seems to have the date of 1831.
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Top coin is a Central American Republic Quarter reale of the KM #1 type - looks like 1831. It is a coin that is far harder to find than the Krause price levels would seem to indicate. It should be silver - but the type is known to have been debased.

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The larger coin is a Token issue of England made at a period of time when they were undergoing a serious monetary shortage. Most of those tokens are fairly common - there are literally thousands of different varieties.
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 Posted 09/03/2006  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cool info Bob do you happen o know of the origin of the government during that time I would assume it could be many of the different European countries who used the 1/4 G. On there coins.
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As Swamperbob said, it's a coin from the Central American Republic, a short-lived confederation of all the lands between Mexico and Panama. "¼" is the denomination (quarter-real, or 1/32 of a dollar); "G" is the mintmark.
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 Posted 09/03/2006  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got ya , thanks .
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