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Septimius Severus? | Commodus Denarius

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 Posted 12/21/2010  4:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Diadiam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a Septimius Severus obverse Serapis reverse 200 ad coin and can't find another online....have you seen one anywhere? been checking for days...Mine is VF-EF. Thanks for any help any one can give!

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 Posted 12/21/2010  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A pic would be helpful, or at least a more comprehensive description - inscriptions, size, metal, etc. Here is the only Septimus Severus coin with Serapis on the reverse on Wildwinds; it's a provincial bronze from Kallatis.
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Okay here is my puzzle.. I have a Septimius Severus head obverse AVGPFE(I)? VCAVGLLC Reverse is full figure Serapis SERAPISDY O(?)NSERVAVG Can't find it anywhere...Could it be Feb 211 when Septimius died and Caracalla took reign? is DY Died York?
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 Posted 12/22/2010  04:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
York was known as Eboracum at the time.
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OK, I've found it. It's not Septimus Severus, but Commodus. It's a silver denarius, I assume? Wildwinds page. Obverse legend should read "L AEL AVREL COMM AVG P FEL", reverse "SERAPIDI CONSERV AVG". Listed in Sear as #5695, struck in Rome in 191 AD.
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Sap,Did the reference list a rarity code?
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 Posted 12/23/2010  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sear doesn't give rarities, just prices. S#5695 lists at $75 in VF, which is higher than average for a Commodus denarius (typically $50 to $60), so I assume it's slightly rarer.

As your coin isn't actually Septimus Severus, I'll be splitting your posts and mine off into a separate thread shortly.
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 Posted 12/23/2010  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Diadiam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where can I find a RIC reference with rarity values? Would a library hold these? If You are saying an average Commodus typically goes for $50-$60 why are some Commodus Denarius auctioned for thousands? on MA auction site
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Condition and rarity are two factors that impact on price of such coins. Other more important factors that impact on price are things like demand. I have many coins that are very rare (unpublished and previously unknown) but this does not make them worth a lot of money as they are rare variants from obscure series that the majority of people are not willing to pay a premium for. Other common coins e.g. Tiberius "Tribute penny" denarii are common but sell at a premium due to the demand for them with the supposed biblical context.

If you look at the MA shops you will see that Commodus denarii sell for as little as Eur 32.00 and can reach Eur 300.00 (for exceptional examples) with the majority on that site being in the Eur 70 - 120 range. If you were wanting to sell your coin you could not expect to obtain the same price as a dealer, who can ask a premium for their coins since they provide a lifetime guarantee etc....

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 Posted 12/23/2010  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way RIC 261 (apparently matching your coin but difficult to judge without seeing it) is rated scarce by RIC. There are two examples on wildwinds, both from ebay, one sold for $54 in 2001 and the other sold for $43 in 2004. This would support the $40-$60 price bracket.
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Ya,just match the coin & condition on the Bay-thats the price basically.
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