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Large Quantities Of Halves + Legal Troubles?

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 Posted 12/27/2010  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Money laundering? LOL! The bank isn't that naive..

No they aren't but you can't be so sure about the government. I'm sure they are taking his information to cover themselves under the anti-laundering laws. The $4k every monday definitely establishes a "pattern" of related transactions. The fact they are more than one business day apart doesn't factor into it. If the government sees that you are doing it over a longer period they will still require it and if the bank doesn't collect the info and they decide the bank should have some of the bank officials could go to prison. They don't want to risk that so it is just easier to ask for your information each time.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are the same tellers taking your info? Maybe you just aren't that memorable :)
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 Posted 12/27/2010  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IHPO8S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very intresting, I have time and extra money. What is the protocal for ordering the halfs? I have a bank and a credit union that are very close to each other. I have accounts at both of them. What is a reasonable amount to get at 1 and dump at the other with out being to much of a bother? I am a charming and nice looking person if that will help me. lol
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 Posted 12/28/2010  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To reply to a few statements/questions:

The inventory of coin varies from bank to bank. Some banks may have a few thousand dollars worth of halves while others may have $50,000 or more. Sometimes, a bank may ship the excess out but that costs a fee. Many times, banks will "trade" or transfer amongst themselves in order to meet demand. Think about the supply variables: location (city, rural or suburb), number of banks that have accounts at each armored car company, the number of armored car companies per city, region. There are probably a great deal of halves held in inventory, since they are the least used coin besides IKES. I did not get an exact $ amount, but my contact said they had a 'ton' in inventory.

As far as money laundering and govt reporting - while the $4k per week is a pattern, the bank knows how the funds are being used - they are being converted into half dollars. The source of the funds or where the funds are going are the two biggest concerns for the bank. The govt only knows what the bank reports to it. The opinion of the bank is that 'the less reported to the govt the better off they are.' The Patriot Act requires cash transactions totaling greater than $10,000 on any one business day to be reported through a CTR.

As far as ordering halves, all you need to do is ask the teller. It all depends on the teller - I've been in banks where the teller orders a few times and then gives you some excuse why they can't order anymore. Then I have gone to another branch of the same bank a few miles away and have had no problems with repeat orders. In my opinion, as long as you are nice and maybe bring an occasional treat, you should have no problems ordering what you want.

I hope this info helps.


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 Posted 12/29/2010  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RealPeso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Legal troubles"? I think all the previous posters covered it pretty well.

This post just brought back good old memories of coming back from a camping "coin roll hunting" trip and getting pulled over for speeding with 3K of coin in the back seat ha ha ha. Cop was a good fellow and after explaining what I was up to I was on my way with my speeding ticket of course.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add x78089 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As long as you do not break the law you should have no legal troubles. A few hoops maybe, but consider the extra precautions as a way to keep th3e IRS away later.
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