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 Posted 01/06/2011  5:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GMForsythe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've heard that ultrasound can be used to clean metals, jewelry, and coins. Have you advice on this?
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 Posted 01/06/2011  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jewelry, yes. Collectible coins, no. Ultrasonic baths vibrate whatever you are trying to clean. The tank and basket are almost always metal so you would essentially have metal vibrating on metal which would be very bad for coins.
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Interesting thought...I'm sure metal could be eliminated from the equation.
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Interesting thought...I'm sure metal could be eliminated from the equation.



Mine has no metal, the basket and container are plastic. But, I never use it on high value coins! I do like playing though! I've found GooGone and 5 minutes in the US cleaner does wonders.

Be very careful if you try this though. Coin on coin in the basket is an absolute no-no! They cannot touch! That's where the toothpicks come in...
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 Posted 01/06/2011  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This sounds interesting. I have some IHC's that are pretty dirty. You should post before & after pics.
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bherring, does it damage the coin ? Is it easy to see that it's been cleaned ?
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bherring, does it damage the coin ? Is it easy to see that it's been cleaned ?


In some instance people put all kinds of solutions in those things and some damage coins and jewlery. Some people think you need soaps, acids or almost anything in them and some just use water. Regardless, it is not smart to clean coins. Here is a thought. A friend of mine's wife put her engagement ring in one of those and the diamond fell out. Only a hundred dollars to fix. Be carefull with things you know nothing about.
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bherring, does it damage the coin ? Is it easy to see that it's been cleaned ?



Read justcarl's comment above. Again, I don't recommend cleaning any coin. Anywhos - using GooGone for a few minutes in a plastic basket ultrasonic cleaner when the coins CANNOT touch each other or any metal surface does remove some dirt/grime. And no, it doesn't leave the coins looking "cleaned" but I'd never do this with a coin I was going to submit for TPG.

I used to sort through bulk wheaties and GooGone worked well on the ones that I wanted to save and place in 2x2s. I used Lindner's Coin Cleaner and MS70 (silver coins only!) also. MS70 WILL leave silver coins looking cleaned and will turn copper coins pinkish. Lindner's is in between GooGone and MS70 in strength and I found it to be a good product but pretty darn pricey.

As an FYI. I recently bought this coin with my ebay Bucks:
https://goccf.com/t/78007
I'll give it a few minutes in the US cleaner with GooGone and post the results in a few days (after I receive it!).
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 Posted 01/07/2011  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IHPO8S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this the same type of ultrasound that is used for Watch movements?
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Read ultrasound can be used for reading filed off serial number from metal,mainly guns
could it be used for reading/retoring worn off dates on coins.

Something with the vibration go deep into the metal cuases a stress release similar to heating but with no heat damge and make filed off serial number reappear.

Was reading serial number restoring can be done with
acid , sound waves , heat/cold forging to get the number to re appear

I am trying right now with a worn SLQ to get a date , I am heating cooling heating cooling over and over
I want to see if its true the " low pressure die points " will expand maing a date reapear.
Like it does with serial numbers

police do this with gold and silver jewlery that has had the inscriptions filed off when stolen and resold

i have searched online but it seems to be a close kept forsenic secret how they do it.
what temps, how fast they cool and heat , and the ultra sound as well.
I just read its the tools they use but not much on how they use it

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[I'll give it a few minutes in the US cleaner with GooGone and post the results in a few days (after I receive it!)./]
bherring,it would be interesting to see the results...and yes I know cleaning is a no no...however there are circumstances when it's unavoidable...such as MD finds
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I'll give it a few minutes in the US cleaner with GooGone and post the results in a few days (after I receive it!).
Noooooo!

Just my opinion, but leave her alone!
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Noooooo!

Just my opinion, but leave her alone!



I hear you jbuck and rarely "conserve" the coins I buy. This one is a maybe. Some very light conservation might help. We'll see after she arrives!
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Okay, but be careful. What I see is a decent looking coin. I would hate for you to do something you will regret!
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The coin arrived today and I'm going to give this one some thought. The "dirt" is very light and the coin looks nice as is. It might be going into an Air-Tite for now. Here's my images:

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Brad - Leave that coin alone, it looks great just how it is.
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