Two Coins To ID - Arabic/Ottoman Related | Sudan & Celebes

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Jeff 11 Valued Member United Kingdom 497 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 10:13 am Need a little help to finish ID on these two. Smaller one to top, dated 1250 AH I assume? Coin or token? any ideas welcome. Larger one, I guess ottoman related from the tugra, but unsure of country/ type of coin. Diameter 21 and 36mm respectively. Thanks for any help! [red[Identified - moved to World Coins forum - Sap[/red] www.kingstoncoincompany.co.uk Report this Post to the Staff

t0rress Pillar of the Community Bulgaria 843 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 11:04 am the first it's token then 1950 becouse befoure the numbers was with turkish numbers like the secound I think the secound it's a AbdÃ¼lhamid II 1313-1895 but I'm not sure Edited by t0rress 01/12/2011 11:05 am Report this Post to the Staff
svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 6:41 pm The bigger one is Mahdist Sudan, 20 piastres, AH 1312 R.Y.12, KM# 26. The smaller one, my first thought was Morocco, they first started displaying Arabic (i.e. European) numerals on their coins, and some of their early coins are pretty simple in design. Didn't find anything. But if 1250 refers to a year, that would be AD 1834, none of "those" countries would produce nicely milled coin like that. I believe it's a token of some kind and it was minted wa-a-ay after AH 1250. Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1319 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 7:13 pm For the smaller one try Malaysia / Singapore, probably a merchants token. Probably also from 1834. Sap will know :) Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1319 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 7:24 pm Think I found it, Celebes AH 1250 (in Western numerals) (1835) Listed in KM under Indonesia Private Token Issue Struck in England foruse by Singapore Merchants 1 Keping (1 KM Tn1 Copper Written in Buginese. Obverse legend: "Tanah ugi" -Land of the Bugis Reverse legend: "Seuwa duwi" (One Doit) Report this Post to the Staff
svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 8:06 pm Good job Andyg! And cool coins, Jeff! Oh, and nice life line! Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16827 Posts	Posted 01/12/2011 11:14 pm I wouldn't have found the Celebes one; in the 4th edition Krause I have, all the listings for Indonesia/Netherlands Indies between 1806 and 1850 are missing. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Jeff 11 Valued Member United Kingdom 497 Posts	Posted 01/13/2011 7:34 pm Thanks so much for the help, Svslav and andyg! Very pleased on the outcome with the token, I have a couple other merchant tokens from that area and period, so will fit nicely with them. Funnily enough, Svslav your the second person this week to comment on my lifeline! www.kingstoncoincompany.co.uk Report this Post to the Staff
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