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2 1/2 Dollar Indian And A St. G For Grading

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I was digging through an old box of coins I stashed away about 4 years ago. I came across an old 4 coin Capitol holder and these coins in it.

Thoughts about grades?

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 Posted 01/19/2011  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! You struck gold!

I am not good at grading gold coins, but I will take a first crack at it.

Indian: MS 62-63

St. G.: AU 58-MS 60.

I am sure other will correct me, give their opinions.
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 Posted 01/19/2011  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I can't tell if that's wear or just the strike on the headress feathers and eagles left shoulder. The 1927 is readily available in good condition. Since the strike is incuse, I'd have to see it in hand to really judge. Also, it's hard to see the luster. So little is written about 1927 IH Gold 2 1/2 dollar counterfiets that I hesitate to even guess. The color, to me, the color looks good and if those are bag marks and not wear on the Cheek; I'd have to say MS-63.

Just had it laying around in a box...right...OK. This is one I would send off to be graded and slabbed. Just my opinion though.
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Indian looks soft on the obv but they are deceiving. The rev looks like a definite MS coin to me since the shoulder disappers quick. The $20 looks a little baggy with light chatter and also an MS62/63. I'd be sending them to TPG. nlp
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Oooppps, I forgot about the Saint. I don't see any wear on the Knee, Toe or Eagle. Since readily available in higher mint states, I'll say she'll grade out as MS 62. The reverse is stronger than the obverse. The marks on the shin will hold her back. Once again IMHO. Please let us know how we did. For those of us with limited experience, it's a lot easier to grade a gold coin in hand. This is one of the coins I'm after next.
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Hi Ken,
The Indian looks MS-63 to me. There is just a touch of "cabinet friction" at the highest point of the Indian's cheek but I don't think that would disqualify it from MS.

I see definite friction on the eagle wing feathers and what looks like luster disruption in the obverse fields. I'd say this one saw a little circulation and would grade AU-58.

Nice!
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I'm also going go with 62 on the Indian.
My guess would be 55
on the St. Gaudens.
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They're both worthless, but you can mail them to me!, I just like the designs.
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I'd have them both graded by a major TPG. The value of these really jumps if they're MS and jumps a lot at MS63 for the Indian.

The Saint looks a little "flat" luster wise at the obverse center but if it's MS then it should go 63, or maybe even 64, without a problem. It could go AU55 or 58 pretty easily too though.

The Indian looks MS except a couple spots in the head-dress. This is another one that could be high AU or low MS. My guess is MS62 for the Indian. The price jump is big at 63 and who knows? It's worth a shot at finding out.
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 Posted 01/26/2011  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all. I'm going to send in the Indian. I traded the Saint in a PCGS MS65 version of the same coin some cash to boot. I got MS63 money for it toward trade.
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 Posted 01/26/2011  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nelrak,
Post back the grade and pics when you get it back.
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 Posted 01/27/2011  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-62 and AU-58 in my opinion...
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