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Please help with I.D. of the coin on the left. Thanks for replies. WOLF
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I think it's Nero,but I'm not sure.The coin have poor details to say better.
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I'm thinking Nero, with on the reverse a table with a prize urn sitting on it (rotate the top pic 90 degrees clockwise); this semis in particular has a good match for the visible bits of the reverse legend?: ..NQROM... However, the portrait is facing the opposite way to all the examples of this and similar types in Wildwinds.

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Wow you are right Sap, it's rotate on 90 degrees.
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The other coin looks like a Celtic Potin.
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or a barbarous imitation.
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The first coin does appear to be Nero, but I haven't seen one with the bust reversed like this. The second one appears to be a barbaric imitation.
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The second one is barbarous - I think I see a beard so Tetricus I, if hes clean shaven its Tetricus II, prob spes reverse maybe pax. A typical British or French contemporary example.
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Torres, It looks like the one you posted but you are correct in that the bust is facing the wrong direction. What dates would this coin cover approximately?
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And thanks all for the help. WOLF
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The reverse depiction is a Certam -- a table on which are an urn and a wreath -- under the table are a discus and two griffins. The assemblage represents the prizes awarded at a competition of excellence in music, gymnastics and equestrian called a certamen instituted by Nero in AD 60 and held in Rome. Of course, Nero always won the music prize (the only event he entered). The event was held every five years thus CER [TAMEN] QVINQ [VENNALE] ROM

Add: This coin was issued with head facing both right and left -- I am away from home on my laptop so I can't give you the respective RIC numbers for these coins. Numerous coins of Nero were issued with both right and left facing heads yet with identical depictions and inscriptions. Here are two examples:

Nero, As, Lugdunum -- RIC 543
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Nero, As, Lugdunum -- RIC 544
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Obverse: Nero, bare headed. Inscription clockwise from bottom: IMP NERO CAESAR AVG P MAX TRP P P

Reverse: Winged Victory, walking left, holding shield inscribed SPQR, S -------- C (left and right)

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Very informative. Thank you James. WOLF
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.......... This coin was issued with head facing both right and left -- I am away from home on my laptop so I can't give you the respective RIC numbers for these coins ..........

Head facing left .......... RIC, Volume I, Nero, Rome: No. 487

Head facing right ........ RIC, Volume I, Nero, Rome: No. 488

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Torres, It looks like the one you posted but you are correct in that the bust is facing the wrong direction. What dates would this coin cover approximately?

Reign 13 October, AD 54 -- 9 June, AD 68
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Reign 13 October, AD 54 -- 9 June, AD 68

Actually after the institution of the Certamen, so AD 60 -- AD 68.

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