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Rest in Peace
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Coin appears to be AU and have an old cleaning at worst; bought it pretty cheap off a reliable seller. The question is, is there anything that could possibly cast doubt on its authenticity? I heard issues with gold dollars being faked very often, so I want to verify. The reverse isn't as weak as the picture looks because its not a great quality picture...but the lettering IS pretty weak:   Thanks for your input.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looking at PCGS Photograde the hair seems wrong to me. It has to be checked by someone that realy knows gold dollars.
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Rest in Peace
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You sure you were looking at the type 2, not type 3? They're a little bit similar if you haven't seen them much before. Hair looks fine to me when I compare to photograde for type 2 and the slabbed one I have = / I (hopefully) know enough about coins that I wouldn't make a mistake on something more obvious, just thought that since there are some higher quality fakes with minute diagnostics out there, maybe someone really familiar with the gold dollars would check like you said. Bought three coins from this seller, including two 'Gem BU; Liberty nickels that actually for once WERE Gem BU or close instead of AU cleaned or MS-62 with marks that didn't show up in the picture. So...I'm hoping this guy wouldn't dupe me though if it were a good fake, I'd imagine he might miss it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Here's a PCGS AU50 for comparison. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seems to match up well with my raw 1855 that's 40-45.
I actually thought Type II dollars were somewhat lightly counterfeited. Is that wrong?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Type II dollars are heavily counterfeited. Along with the $3 gold piece; the are THE most faked US gold coin. It is common for a type 2 gold to have die clashes and they are difficult to fake. I can't tell on this particular example if there are die clashes(though something is going on on the reverse), but if they exist, it is likely genuine.
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I see nothing obvious that indicates clashing. However, there is some doubling on '1' and 'DOLLAR' on the back. The coin also has a little bit of dirt in the devices, at least an appropriate amount for a lightly circulated coin that has an old cleaning. Hope this helps some.
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Yeah, the luster and everything looks ok to me, but I would send it to a TPG to be sure. Very nice coin if genuine! :-) Oh, what is the horizontal line underneath "Dollar" and the vertical line that goes between the "a" and the "r"? That's what I thought sort of looked like a clash, though clashes are usually much more squiggly.
Edited by johnny54321 01/28/2011 01:47 am
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Rest in Peace
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Yeah, it is more of a pin scratch or hairline scratch, the back is a little scuffed up. I'm going to ask the seller about the TPG issue.
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