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While at the coin dealer today I got 2 V nickels. Nothing special. Paid $1 for each. It had staining from what the dealer said was from pvc? pcv? Something like that. The plastic used to seal coins.
He suggested I dip the coins in amnonia and blot it dry. Is this a good idea? I wouldn't think so.


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I would say from everything I read in the past, Just leave it as is. I never tried any cleaning methods, but maybe someone else has heard of this and can give you a better answer.

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If there is still active PVC on the coin, it needs to be removed. I don't know how ammonia reacts with nickel, so I don't know that I would use that particular substance. I'm not sure what the best solution is to use for nickel. Acetone is a possibility. I know that it won't hurt noble metals, but nickel is not a noble metal.
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$1 each? Who cares? Go ahead and experiment a bit and try different cleaning techniques. Try to not use anything too abrasive right away though.
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I have seen many posts regarding using ACETONE to do the dirty deed and clean silver and especially copper coins. My question "where does one get 100% pure acetone, I know nail polish remover is acetone but I don't think it is pure enough (contains other things).

To the people who use acetone, "Where do you buy yours?"

Thanks.
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Yes, I agree. For $1 I have decided to try amnonia. I would have done it already but I need to replenish my supply of amnonia. I've decided to take pics of this nickel before and after and any progressions. I will post them if anybody is interested in seeing the results.
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Acetone's the normal way to remove "PVC gunk", sticky-tape residue and the like. Nail polish remover is normally, I believe, a cheap mixture of acetone and water, which may not be as effective.

Where to get pure acetone from? Well, I work in a chemistry lab, so it's no problem for me. For the rest of you, try a hardware store or chemical supplier.

If acetone is unavailable, try other organic solvents, like methylated spirits, dry cleaning fluid or vodka - they should do much the same job. The purer the better, both to reduce water content and minimize any impurities in the solvent which might deposit onto the coin when the solvent dries.

Not sure what ammonia will do to nickel. I'd like to see the results.
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For environmental reasons now nailpolish remover here in Europe is most ofthe Methyl Ethyl Ketone so no longer the very volatile Acetone

Ammonia is a reduction agent and will give chemical reactions so it is not a pure solvent and as I understand it mostly used on silver to get off the oxidation

So if it is pvc plasticiser use pure acetone or get pure denaturated alcohol 99%
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A source of pure acetone reasonably priced by the gallon is any nail supply store. Be careful handling this stuff, DON'T use plastic containers or implements. Use glass containers, or stainless steel.

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I bought a product called "Koinsolv" Says, Neutral COIN solvent, Removes: PVC, OIL, TAPE, GREASE--I bought to remove scotch tape from a coin (silver Peace dollar)--It didn't remove it, I think because the coin was in direct sun light with the tape on the coin, it just imbedded itself into the coin--nothing but a sander would of removed this stuff-Haven't tried it on PVC, but that is different than imbedded tape/glue--

Glad I went and looked for this can for this post, looks like the bottom of it is corroding & expanding, I've had this stuff for couple of years now in the garage with the heat, guess I need to find a new container for this stuff if I want to keep it--
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quote:
Originally posted by ducky1100

I have seen many posts regarding using ACETONE to do the dirty deed and clean silver and especially copper coins. My question "where does one get 100% pure acetone, I know nail polish remover is acetone but I don't think it is pure enough (contains other things).

To the people who use acetone, "Where do you buy yours?"

Thanks.


I got 100% acetone at CVS just because it was close to the house. It will be in the nail section because 100% pure acetone is what the salons use to take fake nails off with and stuff like that. Its pretty cheap also, I got 16oz for I think about $3.00
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All of my coins were stored in those old pvc coin albums until recently. Many of them had green pvc gunk on them. I bought a bottle of pure acetone from my local hardware shop (in the same aisle as the kerosene, metho etc,). I wiped them over gently with a cotton bud (not sure if that was the correct thing to do or not), they seem to have been restored with no visible side affects.

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quote:
Originally posted by fastfords1

A source of pure acetone reasonably priced by the gallon is any nail supply store. Be careful handling this stuff, DON'T use plastic containers or implements. Use glass containers, or stainless steel.



I got my 100% acetone from CVS or Walgreens. Reasonably priced.

Why not use plastic? My purchase came in a plastic bottle and is still. Is this a special plastic bottle per chance?
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quote:
Originally posted by Sap

If acetone is unavailable, try other organic solvents, like methylated spirits, dry cleaning fluid or vodka - they should do much the same job.


I agree with brother Sap, with only one small difference. Use small quantities of the solvents on the coin, but drink the much larger doses of vodka. I guarantee that when your finished, the coin will look better.
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Pure acetone is available at most hardware stores, and do not wipe the coins just soak them and then air dry, acetone evaporates very quickly. and is highly flammable and emits very strong fumes, use in a well ventelated area.

soak the coins until or repeat short soaking until all evidence of the PVC is removed,, PVC will eat the coins surface and permanently damage the coins.

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Pure acetone is easily available at Home Depot.

Now, having said that, be careful. Acetone will absolutely take care of the PVC problem, but it reacts with copper to produce acetic acid. V nickels are 75% copper. Acetic acid is to copper much like E-Zest is to silver - a corrosive chemical which will dissolve metal from the coin if used improperly.

The acetic acid reaction is not nearly as strong, or as fast, as the equivalent silver reaction. Furthermore, the reaction forming acetic acid does not take place in the absence of light, so if you use an opaque container and cover for your soak, you should be okay.

I can't advise you of how long to allow the coin to soak, as I've never played with a V nickel and acetone. To err on the side of caution, give it an hour the first time, no longer.

And remember, you're only out a dollar if the coin gets messed up.
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