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Spanish Coin? | Modern Copy Of Pillar Dollar

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I have found a few places that say this coin

Spanish-Coin?-|-Modern-Copy-Of-Pillar-Dollar

Spanish-Coin?-|-Modern-Copy-Of-Pillar-Dollar is a "pillars" coin and another says it is Spanish-Mexican 8 Reales. I just need a valid description to list it. Thanks in advance!

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 Posted 01/30/2011  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wiljandi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is a Spanish coin. Put I think that is fake? Because on the lion is a word copy. Put I`m new so I can`t tell precisely .
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01/30/2011 2:02 pm
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 Posted 01/30/2011  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jenkinsde27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks -- I didn't even see the 'copy'!
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 Posted 01/30/2011  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, guys, and welcome to CCF, both of you.

The coin is a tourist copy of Spanish colonial 8 reales, also known as a pillar dollar or a piece of eight. It would be minted in Mexico city for it has a mint mark "M" with little "o" above it (so, it would be issued for circulation in Mexico).
The give-away that it's a copy is not only the word "copy" stamped on it, but also the quality of the design. For example if you look at the map on the globes it is too refined to be authentic. In other words this piece wasn't made to try to fool anyone about its origin. Unfortunately there are many forgeries of this type of coin that do exactly that - try to fool you. So you should be very careful when buying something like that.
In the "World Coins and Commemoratives" subforum there are a lot of discussions about authenticity of Spanish colonial coins, check them out!
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thx svslav -- sorry I can't contribute to any of the questions only ask them! LOL
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 Posted 02/04/2011  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the World of "Unreal - Reales" - I collect 8R counterfeits and I own over 3,000 varieties.

But your coin is a new version that I have not encountered before. The classification as a Tourist Copy or Replica is of course correct because there was no intent to defraud.

There are numerous miss-interpretations of the Colonial design. I really like the 4 leaf clovers that have replaced the Spanish rosettes. The edge also appears to be reeded |||||||||. All original Pillar 8Rs use a series of Lotus Blossoms.

I am pretty sure the engraver in this case failed Geography in school as well. He certainly makes North America an odd looking place. The world globe is incorrect for the 18th century as well as the 21st.
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I bought one similar to the 1743 above in the mid 1960's from
the Johnson Smith mail order company.

The sold mostly gag items like rubber masks, whoopee cushions, etc.
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