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Derlowemann New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 01/31/2011 9:00 pm I have not a clue of what this is, I am hoping that someone here will help me answer decades of wondering. I got it back in the late 60's from a friend who took it from his father. I know you cannot read the lettering from the pics, 90KBs is not alot of detail. LOL The first pic has "FRANCISCVS AVG MARIA THERESIA AVG". Around the two busts, on the bottom is... NATVS VIII DEC.MDCCVIII NATA XVII MAI. MDCCXVII The second pic has written around the outer busts.... "FOECVNDITAS AVGVSTORVM PATRIAE FELICITAS". the bust in the middle has this around it.... *JIOSEPHARCHAVSTNATXIII MARMDCCXII** On th bottom of the center bust it has what looks like..AVCE But I am not sure about the "V" and the C could be an O. On the bottom edge it has MDCCLVIIII.... The 3rd pic just shows the size next to a quarter, it looks like brass but I am not sure about that either.Any info would be helpful. Thanks, Tony. Report this Post to the Staff

JMerrick Valued Member Guatemala 357 Posts	Posted 01/31/2011 11:02 pm Is there anything written in really tiny letters on the horizontal bar, under the busts of Maria Theresa and her husband? Report this Post to the Staff
JMerrick Valued Member Guatemala 357 Posts	Posted 01/31/2011 11:08 pm This sounds like something very similar to your piece: "Maria Theresa was empress of Austria from 1740-1780, Franz ruled jointly with her from 1745-1765. He died on August 18, 1865. Maria Theresa decreed a year later (July 21, 1766) that coins would be issued with the portrait of Francis (Franz) and would be dated the year of his death. Letters of the alphabet signified the actual year that coins were struck (i.e. 1766=A). Joseph ruled jointly with his mother from 1765-1780 and by himself after her death in 1780 until 1790. The legends on the medallion are in Latin and say: FRANCISCVS AVG. MARIA THERESA AVG. (Their majesty Franz and Maria Theresa). NATVS VIII DEC.MDCCVIII NATA XVII MAI MDCCXVII. (Born December 8, 1708, Born May 8, 1717). Their son is mentioned too: IOSEPH.ARCH.AVST.NAT.XIII MAR.MDCCXLI (Joseph Archduke of Austria born March 8, 1741). The perimeter is a group of words, not a sentence, FOECVNDITAS (fecvnditas?) AVGVSTORVM PATRIAE FELICITAS MDCCLVIIII. (Fruitfulness Majesty, Country, Happiness (or good wishes) 1759). A.W. and G.E. (A. WIDEMAN and G. ERLE) were the designers of this medallion." The above was taken from: http://www.coinsite.com/content/cda...rchive20.asp It does sound like there are modern copies... Report this Post to the Staff
Derlowemann New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 02/01/2011 4:16 pm I really doubt that it is an original, I am not that lucky,LOL. But even so, it is still a neat piece, I love history. I looked up the names years ago {this was before the internet, I think they were called libraries.} if I remember correctly I think I read one or both of these people were beheaded. Not 100% on that fact, was this mentioned? I am so glad I found this site, the people here have helped me a lot. As for the writing under the busts, yes it looks like there are 6 or 8 marks that are not legible, the last 3 kind of look like vii but I cannot be sure. Thanks again, anything else you know would be great. Tony Report this Post to the Staff
JMerrick Valued Member Guatemala 357 Posts	Posted 02/01/2011 6:37 pm They definitely weren't beheaded... (That was Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette), but Maria Theresa did leave quite a legacy to the coin collecting world... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Theresa_thaler Report this Post to the Staff
Derlowemann New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 02/01/2011 6:59 pm I read Doc's answer but he never mentioned what this is called. He said it was not a coin but not what it was called. The guy asked what it might be worth and Doc never said what the original or the modern would go for. I emailed him with a question about it myself. Now my iterest is peaked, LOL. I asked if he knew where the best place to take this to find out more info and how to tell if it is modern made. The guy said his had sterling on it and some gold plating, mine looks brass or bronze to me and no silver 999 or gold that I can see. I wish there was a picture of it on the post. But thanks anyway, I will let everyone know something when I find out. Tony Report this Post to the Staff
J-Rod New Member United States 1 Posts	Posted 01/22/2012 3:47 pm I have the same medal just wanted to know if you know any more of the value of it is. I found a listing for the same one but it said it was a copy and it was for sale for $150. thanks Report this Post to the Staff
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