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Valued Member
United States
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I saw this coin on ebay and the seller doesn't even know if it is real or fake. What say ye?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4989 Posts |
100% Fake. Real Trade dollars were produced from 1873 to 1885 and have a different design than the coin pictured.  Edited by fenton
02/03/2011 4:14 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
122 Posts |
Was this type of design ever used?
Possibly a prototype design?
It does have a certain appeal.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, it is similar to a very rare Trade dollar pattern. Even so, there is basically zero chance that the lump of metal shown is a genuine pattern. |
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New Member
United States
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I wouldnt buy if I have to guess. That coin looks too generic for me to think it's real. I dont like how that Liberty is on that globe for some reason. That was the first thing I saw.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes I think this is a poor copy of this pattern coin: "J-1220 (A-W 1244). Trade dollar. Obverse with William Barber's copy of the Longacre design with 13 stars on the flag. The reverse is a new die and bears the inscription TRADE / DOLLAR / 420 GRAINS / 900 FINE within a luxuriant olive wreath, tied with a bow at the bottom which is inscribed GOD OUR TRUST. The inscription UNITED STATES OF AMERICA appears at the top border. Silver, reeded edge." NOTE: You won't see one of these up on ebay for sale unslabbed. You'll see it in a PCGS holder marketed by the likes of a Heritage or other major auction house. Edited by fenton
02/03/2011 4:52 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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By calling it a "pattern coin", was there a prototype coin like this that was never produced?
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Valued Member
United States
122 Posts |
OK, I looked up "pattern coin" on wikipedia. Very interesting! So there probably wasn't very many of the real thing ever made since they were just "trying out a new design" I suppose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_coin |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A pattern coin is produced in very small quantities to evaluate a design. They do not generally enter circulation and are often found in museums or very high end collections.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1510 Posts |
seen 4 fakes today--pretty funny 2 morgans with weird lettering on the back and two 1799 -bust dollars--all 4 we picked up with a magnet!  Retired USAF 1983-2003
Edited by Coinstar
02/04/2011 12:17 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Ouch... Gotta be a bad feeling after you dish out some cash for that...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1510 Posts |
yes the guy bought them for 5 dollars a piece from "some guy at work" 20 bucks for scrap metal!
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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