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Need Help With 3 Error Nickels

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These nickels were pulled from roll searches and I an not certain what they would be categorized as but I have some thoughts. I believe the first one might be a die cap but I am looking for conformation or an explanation of what it really is.The reverse looks great while the obverse looks like a deteriorated die but still a bit different.

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This one I am not at all sure of. The circular cuts under the bust are very different however, the reverse is totally normal.

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The last nickel has a pebbled finish on both sides. To my knowledge there were to satin finished coins produced in 1989. Again, I am looking for answers from the substantial brain trust. I know that someone here probably knows how to help me with these.



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I'd say die cap, tilted collar and I dont know what. I found an '89 also today with the same surface. Pretty curious piece.
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yeah first one is an early early stage die cap

not sure abut the second one, but tilted collar sounds about right

the third I'm pretty sure is a sandblasted coin
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Could the third one be acid dipped? How sure are you about the die cap %? Thanks,
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the third one could be acid dipped, but it seems that there was nothing eating away at the rim.

and I'm not sure about the die cap, I think struck through die cap is the cause, not a die cap. I have trouble with identifying the two
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I think the first coin is struck through. Probably from grease but I am not sure. If it were struck through a die cap I would expect more softness in the letters and I wouldn't expect the sharp defined edge of the die at the rim. I think the second coin is die damage possibly from a hard collar clash. The third coin looks like the surfaces were altered outside of the mint.

Keep in mind a die cap and struck through a die cap are two different errors. A die cap is the coin that sticks to the die for more than one strike while the struck through a die cap is one of the coins being struck by this capped die. A die cap usually happens on the hammer die and the collar surrounds the coin on the anvil die so a die cap tends to expand larger with each strike. The most valuable die caps are the ones that form a cup shape from moving up around the neck of the die.
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Bust a box this a.m. and got another. Note: the rims OK. but the edges are "pebbled" also.



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The pebbling on mine looks very similar to a satin finish. It does not look acid eaten or sand blasted as I have gotten sand blasted and it's pretty obvious when you see it. I am starting to think that the first one may be a strike through thick plastic perhaps. It's pretty are specific to the head and front of face area.
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