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50 Dollar Bill, Backside Completely With Green Ink

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 Posted 02/05/2011  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickleman,

Again, I'm only guessing, but since the intaglio process involves high pressure, if they don't change the felt very often, which I doubt they do, it does stand to reason that you "could" have the impression from the plate pressed into the felt. If the pressure is sufficient, and I have no reason to think it isn't, that impression could indeed be quite sharp. Another possible explanation would be the plate was inked, and all excess ink wasn't wiped off the plate. I think this is less likely, because you can see a definite 'fabric' grill pattern in the piece.

I do think that we can all agree that by it's very nature, the intaglio process involves extremely high pressure.

And, I certainly don't claim to be anywhere near right on this one. I'm just looking at a picture like everyone else, and trying to get from A to Z.... Where I'm usually very critical of an object, and start out thinking that it's not real, there's something about this particular piece that feels 'right', if that makes any sense. One particular detail someone trying to fake this as an error would not have thought of is the two blank areas. There's a reason those are on a plate, that I won't get into that on here, and they are entirely appropriate to the design of the bill.
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 Posted 02/06/2011  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very interesting note, if it were mine I would send it in to a grading service for authentication and then see what they determine it to be.
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 Posted 02/06/2011  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Btw if no one has said it, the two bars are the places for infrared printing.

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 Posted 02/06/2011  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is very interesting.

I went back and compared and yes that is the exact location of the "mystery" bars.
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 Posted 02/06/2011  02:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent wd.... I imagine that this is some sort of security device? This adds a great deal of credibility for the authenticity of the note (in my opinion).
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 Posted 02/06/2011  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pinenut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ATM's give out 50's?
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 Posted 02/06/2011  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the corner store by my house, there's an ATM machine that gives out $1's as well as 5's, 10's & 20's. I haven't managed to figure that one out yet, unless they just want to make sure they wipe out someone's bank account. I certainly wouldn't touch that machine!

I've seen ATM's that give out different currencies, like Dollars and Pesos, but never before an ATM that spits out $1 bills.
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 Posted 02/06/2011  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimmy69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually those ATM's do exist. At Amsterdam Schiphol Airport they installed a few years ago 2 so called US Dollar ATM's operated by ABN AMRO bank. These are special ATM's where you can only withdraw US dollars (in contrary to the standard EU ATM‘s that are located all over the airport where you can only withdraw Euro‘s). Unlike the US ATM's, the Schiphol US Dollar ATM's also give 50's.
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 Posted 02/06/2011  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
This is definitely not a test note, nor does it even remotely resemble one....


Refer to page 428 - "US error note encyclopedia" 2nd edition - By Stephen M Sullivan
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 Posted 02/06/2011  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are free to believe whoever and whatever you wish to, (as am I).
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 Posted 02/06/2011  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brian339 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 02/16/2011  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harriet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know what it is...

It is the chablon roller on 3 color selective inking on the Giori I-12

The pattern is magnetic for it is distiguishing the denomination...you can see where the inking of the chablon was literally ripped off the roller leaving the ink.

As the press sensed there was a problem on one of the rollers, between the plate and impression, the nip point was "off impression" just prior to the nip point yet just enough to leave the ink and just enough to come "off impression" of the wiping unit. So the bill and possibly many of them went through the press but this particular bill was not caught in COPE. How do I know? Guess
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 Posted 02/16/2011  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Educated guesses:

Offset error, caused when paper doesn't feed and ink gets on the opposing backing.

Stripes are from feed rollers, which picked up ink from the pass.

Unprinted areas are for watermarks.

Look for other notes with serial numbers 5000 apart from this.
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 Posted 02/17/2011  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect Harriet is right on this one. My guess is she doesn't just spend $50 bills... She probably makes them too, in a professional capacity...
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 Posted 02/17/2011  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How do I know? Guess


Trust me you don't want me to guess. My guesses usually end with alien abductions and such...
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02/17/2011 08:00 am
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