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50 Dollar Bill, Backside Completely With Green Ink

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 Posted 02/04/2011  08:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jimmy69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I got this 50 Dollar bill via an ATM machine when I was visting the US 4 years ago. As the backside was completely with green ink, I took it back home with me as it looked an interesting bill to me. The bill has no folds. It has a watermark if you keep it against the light. On the front side of the bill, red crisps are present.

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Any idea of what it might be worth?

Thanks!
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 Posted 02/04/2011  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure of the value. I'm sure it will carry some sort of premium. Sweet find.
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 Posted 02/04/2011  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is either altered or counterfeit.
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 Posted 02/04/2011  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A solid inked 1995 $1 sold at Heritage for $517.50.

It's difficult to tell from your pic what you have. If you could scan it at max. DPI's and load it from an outside photo site, we could get a better look at it.
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 Posted 02/05/2011  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are much better pictures Jimmy, but I am still lost as to what you have there..... I just have never seen anything like it, and a couple of the features totally perplex me.

The two clear spots seem to follow the outline of the peripheral design (as if done intentionally).

The two vertical bands of a different shade of green seem to have upper and lower bases to them in the boarders of the note (as if done mechanically).

Would you happen to have a link to that Heritage auction ikandiggit?



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 Posted 02/05/2011  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://currency.ha.com/common/view_...Lot_No=13253

One of the online sellers has one but it's now gone (sold?). It was Lew Dufault that had one. It still appears on his home page for errors.
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Thanks for that Heritage link ikandiggit..... That note looks as a person might imagine such a thing..... and Jimmy's note might have genuine origins as well, but those design contoured blank spots coupled with the vertical bars or contrasting color are unlike anything that I would expect to see on an over-inked plate.
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I've seen that effect in the past. There's never been an explanation given for that that I've seen. As for the blank spots, the only thing that I can think of is that the actual plate may not have been attached for the reverse printing. But, if that was the case, you would think all those misprinted bills would have been pulled and destroyed.
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 Posted 02/05/2011  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Extremely interesting..... this is completely new to me.... must be just one more thing that I am completely ignorant of..... I am far, far, far from being omniscient...

Thanks ikdi..
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My understanding (from Sullivans Book) is that these are BEP TEST notes that somehow made it into circulation.

Further, this error is caused by the presses being "flooded" with ink PRIOR to the actual useable notes being printed. Make sense --

I may not have all the terminology correctly
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 Posted 02/05/2011  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


This is definitely not a test note, nor does it even remotely resemble one.... (test notes do not resemble circulation notes for a reason).

http://currency.ha.com/common/view_...Lot_No=20442

http://currency.ha.com/common/view_...=20443#Photo
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 Posted 02/05/2011  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zeewool,

The weird thing is, it does resemble a 'felt' impression, as if, perhaps the first plate was missing, and the felt layer was inked instead the plate, as normally happens. The two blank spots wouldn't matter then, as they appear to occur in what are normally 'blank' spots.
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 Posted 02/05/2011  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that were a felt impression then why is the artwork for the back side visible in the green ink?
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This is way above my head JM, as I have not seen anything like it before, nor can I explain the off color bands that extend into the boarders.... the shape of the blank spots conform to the design, and that is what really confuses me..... it probably is an error of some sort, as you elude to.
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 Posted 02/05/2011  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dumprat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
almost like something was stuck to the plate.
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