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Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 09:43 am Hey there.. 2 more Chinese coins to ID! :) Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2868 Posts	Posted 02/07/2011 10:18 am The top one (with the reverse pictured before the obverse is I think from the Tang dynasty - a 1 wen - I don't have my books with me at the moment so I can't be sure though. The lower one is Jia Qing 1796-1820 Board of Revenue 1 Wen My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Edited by Bacchus2 02/07/2011 10:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
xphobe New Member United States 35 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 12:10 am Quote: The top one (with the reverse pictured before the obverse is I think from the Tang dynasty - a 1 wen - I don't have my books with me at the moment so I can't be sure though. I'm impressed! I can't do that from memory... yet ;) It is Tang dynasty, AD 618-904. The coin says Kai Yuan Tung Pao, which could be any of several emperors over a 300 year period. Hard to see if there's meant to be anything on the reverse. That same inscription was also copied by Korea and known as Kae Won Tong Bo 998-1009. In fact, it's the coin on the back cover of my Schjoth :) Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 05:18 am I see. Is there anyway to narrow the 300 year period down? Size, weight, colours, etc? I personally doubt that there were supposed to be anything on the reverse. Or is every coin from that 300 year period identical? (I'd like to know a value and a Krause KM#..) Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2868 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 05:25 am A true expert might be able to tell something by style but it's beyond me. There is no Krause number for these as Krause does not catalogue anything back past 1600. I haven't got my Schjoth with me for a number from it, but to be honest that catalogue is somewhat dated now and there are better references available. Value is a couple of pounds - say less than $5 - maybe a bit more on a good day. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Edited by Bacchus2 02/08/2011 05:26 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16806 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 06:35 am Quote: Is there anyway to narrow the 300 year period down? Subtle differences in the shapes of the characters have been used to draw up a rough chronology, at least for the early Kai Yuan period; the explanations given in the Jen catalogue for identifying the various types are too obscure for me to try to apply to actual coins. The Tang Dynasty was a prosperous time for the Empire, quite unlike the "Dark Ages" Europe was suffering at the same time, and the weight of the Kai Yuan coins actually increased during the period 620 - 750 AD, before declining again. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Tomten Valued Member Sweden 159 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 07:28 am Thanks for the help guys! I understand Sap. I just dislike having unidentified coins, eventhough this is "ID:ed", but a 300y period.. Actually, if this would be any help.. The Kai Yuan coin in this topic is about twice the thickness compared to the other Kai Yuan coin I posted in my first topic. Would this mean that this one, increased weight, would be 620 - 750AD and the other a later version? Report this Post to the Staff
DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 02/08/2011 09:09 am The Tang piece looks like H#14.1(621-718). Jing does not touch hole, short top stroke on yuan. Report this Post to the Staff
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