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Is This A Quarter?

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 Posted 02/11/2011  09:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BigD to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin was found while metal detecting, an itis badly decomposed which is a 1 of the mysteries with this coing. The coin is just a little larger than a US quarter and about twice as thick and seems to be made of silver. One side ot the coin has nothing visable and on the other has what appears to be part of the bust of George Washington. It resembles the same bust that is on the quarter but with some subtle differences. I know it is Bad shape, but hopefully someone can identify it. Again I would like to know.

1. What it is?
2. Approximately how old(seems to be silver so it is not clad)

Thanks

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Identified - moved to Modern US Errors forum - Sap
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02/11/2011 10:06 am
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 Posted 02/11/2011  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 1946 Washington quarter
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 Posted 02/11/2011  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am curious, can you tell me how you could tell? Was the 1946 Quarter larger and thicker than the other years?
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 Posted 02/11/2011  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably just some kind of token, going by your description it can't be a quarter unless it was flattened and combined with another quarter to get the thickness.
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 Posted 02/11/2011  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could only find 1 token with the Washington Bust facing left, it was a 1793 Draped bust Token...
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 Posted 02/11/2011  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, the more I look at this coin the more the wheels keep spinning.. I am now wondering if the what looks like pitting is acutally melted metal. So here are some more questions based on my new thought. I have attached another picture showing the thickness.

1. does silver expand when heated?
2. could heat cause a coin to get larger in diameter and thickness?



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 Posted 02/11/2011  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an SGS slabbed MS-65...
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Jmerrick..could you elaborate on what "SGS slabbed MS-65" means... I am a newbie here.
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 Posted 02/11/2011  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a really bad joke. SGS is a coin grading service that is notorious for grading coins much higher than they should be. They would probably grade a coin 'perfect', if it had a giant hole drilled in it, and then it was folded in half in a vise.
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OH I see let's pick on the new guy that knows nothing about coins...just kidding. I really appreciate everyone that attempts to help..
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 Posted 02/11/2011  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New guys are for picking on

One thing that could help is getting an accurate weight
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 Posted 02/11/2011  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
1. does silver expand when heated?
2. could heat cause a coin to get larger in diameter and thickness?

Yes, and yes. But not to the extent that seems to have happened here. And when it cooled back down again it would shrink back to its original dimensions. So unless the coin was still hot when you took the pics, that's not the answer here.

Some options that occur to me are:

- Fire damage. Partially melting it could explain the change in shape - the "extra thickness" could come from metal in the centre of the coin flowing out to the rims - but fire wouldn't make the mass increase. I don't think it likely that two quarters would fuse together in a single mass and still have a relatively intact milled edge. Weigh it.

- Counterfeit. If so, it's probably not really made of silver, but of some soft metal that has deformed with mild heat or has simply corroded over time. It probably looked more convincing back when it was first made, or perhaps the forger used this "dud" to practice with before moving on to higher quality copies.
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 Posted 02/12/2011  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was looking at that picture some more... Can you really see through it under George's jaw? It looks like there's a chunk rotted out there.
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 Posted 02/12/2011  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is just black tarnish in the pitting...
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