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I could not figure out how to update the old thread so I started a new one.Hope that's ok.Well I received the second Coin/Cud today in the mail and it's a perfect match.No two ways about it.These two must have been made minutes apart almost 40 years ago.I do have a few questions if anybody knows.How common/rare is it to Locate two Identical Cuds? and is this a common/Rare area for a Cud on a Nickel?Thanks for looking and I hope you enjoy my attempt at taking pictures Coin #1 Obverse  #1 Reverse  Coin # 2 Obverse  #2 Reverse  Allmost 40 years apart they're together  |
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Nickel is a very hard metal, and Cuds probably as frequent as any other denomination. Die progressions are really cool, but only a certain set of collectors really seek them out. I think they illustrate a story like nothing else! The error type is unusual to encounter, but when searching BU rolls or bags, when you find one, you're likely to find another. I couldn't speculate on the odds of 2 coins separating at "birth" and coming together decades later! Really fascinating. Edited by liveandievarieties
02/14/2011 4:44 pm
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Having 1 is cool, but 2 of them is even cooler. I see one on ebay right now too if youd like another... |
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Having two of any coin made from any die carries about the same chances, realistically. The fact that you can IDENTIFY them as being from the same die is what is different...I've had a number of doubled dies from the same die show up years apart from one another and from different sources - so I would say it's not all that uncommon.
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Thanks for that info Errorcoins.having 2 is cool but 3 would be incredible unless I find out there's like ten thousand just like mine.
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interesting point Chuck, but a doubled die produces the same coin it's entire life, where a Cud essentially ends the life of the die, right? |
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WOW! And I thought one was cool. Are these from bags?
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Fioti They came from ebay.Have a look at the other thread with the same title |
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Step one is a die crack. Once the crack reaches rim to rim, more striking will cause a wider crack until a chunk falls out. Then it makes Cuds (this one is large) until the die falls apart or the inspector notices and replaces the die. In the right spot, if it goes awhile, it can be promoted. See atheist cent. I have a Peace $ with die cracks almost entirely around the rim, about ¼" in. That would have made a record breaking Cud with many more strikes. |
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Hey Fred- Clear something up for me, when does a die "chip" become a Cud? When it reaches the rim? |
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The largest Cud I own I've seen a duplicate of on ebay, so long as the workers do not notice that the die has broken, the Cud coins will continue to be made. This is part of the reason why base of bust Cuds are more commom than any other type, as they are more difficult to notice (due to their position) at a glance than a Cud such as yours. The bigger the die break on a coin, the higher the likelyhood is that someone in quality control will notice theres been a die break and change the dies. |
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I purchased a hoard of error tokens from a gentleman who'd worked on private minting presses for over 40 years. He told me that when a die shatters (I don't know about a break or crack) it sounds like a gun shot. Can't miss it. And if you're standing close you run the risk of a serious shrapnel wound. I found that fascinating.
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