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 Posted 02/16/2011  9:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bobbymeru to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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does having the box and COA really affect the value of a proof clad or silver set? I know I like to be able to see my collection in the lenses without having to pull them out of or put back in each box.
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 Posted 02/16/2011  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Take the lenses out of the boxes and store the COA's and boxes in a box in the attic
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The short answer is...yes. Unless it's MS or PF 70. It gives the buyer the feeling it's genuine even though there are those that send their coins to a TPG and then sell the packaging on line. I've negotiated 10% off the asking price if the packaging is absent or messed up.
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Thanks. I do that, just curious if it really affects the value. I see sets being drastically sold for less without the box and COA.
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Take the lenses out of the boxes and store the COA's and boxes in a box in the attic
Take the coins out of the lenses and put them in Dansco albums. Then put the lenses, COAs, and boxes in the attic.

Okay, that may not be your game, but it is mine since I never plan to sell them.

The truth is that it does not matter where you keep the COA until it comes time to sell them. Hopefully that would not be for a very long time. Enjoy your sets they way you want to enjoy them.
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 Posted 02/17/2011  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Take the coins out of the lenses and put them in Dansco albums.


Personally I would not do that. To much risk of them being damaged, and I feel they would be safer in the lenses. No chance of exposure to moisture, fingerprints and scratches.
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 Posted 02/18/2011  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While the lenses will protect from fingerprints and scratches, do not put too much faith in their protection from moisture or VOCs. The lenses are tight but not air tight and they are not sealed at all. They can be opened with no more than a fingernail or thin blade, carefully worked into the space between the two pieces, prying them apart. They are very good protection and leaving the coins in the lenses does eliminate the chance of fingerprintering and scratching (so does use of cotton gloves), they are just not perfect. Probably the most protective packaging I have seen from the mint recently is the heavy plastic used on the 2010 circulating quarters set, which is welded shut around each coin. It is not pretty, just really protective.
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The lenses are tight but not air tight and they are not sealed at all. They can be opened with no more than a fingernail or thin blade,


Wouldn't a piece of tape around the edge solve this?
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Personally I would not do that. To much risk of them being damaged...
As I said, "...that may not be your game, but it is mine since I never plan to sell them."


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...and I feel they would be safer in the lenses. No chance of exposure to moisture, fingerprints and scratches
I may give you the fingerprints and scratches, which are only possible during the move from lens to album, and only of you are not careful. However, the OGP lenses are just as susceptible to moisture as the Dansco album, as neither is air tight.


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Wouldn't a piece of tape around the edge solve this?
The same tape could be used on an album as well. It would not be pretty, though.

Again, to each their own! I do not expect you to jump on the Dansco bandwagon, but it is the choice I made and I am happy with it.
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Wouldn't a piece of tape around the edge solve this?

It may also trap outgassing from the adhesive inside the holder.
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It may also trap outgassing from the adhesive inside the holder.


Doesn't heat have to be present for outgassing to occur? And if the adhesive is susceptible to outgassing, wouldn't the lenses themselves be also? Just asking, I don't want to start something, I want to learn something.
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I believe he meant the adhesive on the tape.

There is archival quality tape, but my concern is not contamination from it. I think it would not look pretty. If you leave it on, people will think it was tampered with. If you take it off, it may leave residue that might not be easy to remove.
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 Posted 02/18/2011  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CEOcoinshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
COA and Box is the price quoted in the greysheet. Some dealers will discount the sets when they buy them.
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Wouldn't a piece of tape around the edge solve this?


Sure, until it deteriorates and eats into the plastic, and the vapors it gives off affect the coin.
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Sure, until it deteriorates and eats into the plastic, and the vapors it gives off affect the coin.


Sounds like adhesive tape could be used by...

Sure, until it deteriorates and eats into the plastic body, and the vapors it gives off affect the coin bone.

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does having the box and COA really affect the value of a proof clad or silver set?


No, just the price.

Sadly, way too many people collect packaging when they think they're collecting coins.
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