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Pillar of the Community
Canada
864 Posts |
I don't know whether its an error or an altered coin  There is some damage on it too and I find it hard to believe that someone didn't hang onto this in all the years of its travels. I'll post images of it to hear what you folks think. Of course I'd love it to be real but feel thats probably high hopes and too good to be true  By the way, I scored some very cool pennies and a couple of other quarters and toonies today. I bought a roll of toonies, one of quarters and $15 of pennies from the bank to search through today. I'm stoked to have found my first ever 1930's cent in a roll. A 1934!! Canadian. I also found some more US "S" coins and have about a roll's worth of US cents to check, out of todays lot! But, right now I want to focus on this rotated Toonie. Here you go:   |
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Valued Member
Canada
250 Posts |
I believe it is post mint damage. As I understand it the centre and the outside of this coin are struck at the same time by a single die. Therefore this one was rotated (perhaps evidenced by the circular scratch marks on the reverse of the coin) on purpose after the fact.
At least, that is what I suspect...until demonstrated otherwise.
Very interesting find though, I wonder how difficult it was to rotate that centre piece.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
864 Posts |
Actually, this Toonie core is totally flipped around as well as rotated upside down!! I'm sure this is a case of someone has messed with it. The 1996 Toonies, when they cme out, the cores sometimes came out of them. I think people would sometimes freeze them (I read this somewhere) and just pop the core out. Looks like someone popped this one out and flipped it backwards and upside down when they put it back in, likely on purpose for a joke? I wish it were a real error :( but it is pretty cool to find in in a roll of toonies from my bank even if it isn't. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
864 Posts |
PS: Elizabeth should be facing the Elizabeth obverse side and the bear should be facing the CANADA reverse side.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1472 Posts |
If you had it certified by a TPG like ICCS it would be worth more than $2. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2448 Posts |
I can hear that conversation they're having over brewkys now, "We'll freeze em, pop out the Bear, flip the sides, and release it back to the wild; It'll drive the Yanks nuts...Eh!" LOL
Actually, I propably know the guy that did it. Had me going for a while.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
610 Posts |
 Garage job.I have read alot about this type of home-made error |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
864 Posts |
I visit this site (link is below) sometimes as it always comes up in google searches for error coins. Here is a page about post mint "altered" toonies. I see there's a link to email and I'm thinking about sending an email with scans of this toonie to hear what the person there has to say about it. I really can't spring for getting anything checked out and certified right now so maybe I can get some casual feedback from this guy at least. http://www.coinscan.com/err/altered.html |
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Canada
864 Posts |
Yeah, I think garage job too.
There was another toonie in the roll with those circular scrapes. I've just assumed they're from coin counting machines or something, as a different incident from the toonie core being flipped/rotated. There's a big casino a few miles from town so maybe this toonie has spent time in the slots or something? I've seen a few coins with these circular scrapes. Nickels, dimes, quarters etc
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would say there a quite a few of these floating around in circulation. I remember when they first came out lots of people were trying to pop the centers. I have two 96's and a 99 like the one pictured here. I have even received just the core in my change as well. Oddities but worth keeping as a conversation piece
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
864 Posts |
They're definately fun coins! I'm disappointed they're scraped like that though.
By the way, I just sent off an email with images of the toonie to coinscan. Don't know if I'll get a response but time will tell. I sure like all the info and work he put into that site for so many people to find and learn from. I guess coin sites do really help to draw more peoples interests into coin collecting and making for growing communities. Nice.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Get it graded by ICCS! They don't have any problem calling it an "upset core".
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
864 Posts |
Thanks 1cent. I'm hoping to hear back from the Coinscan people, meanwhile, I won't release it back into circulation and will learn what I can about it.
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
Dottir,
Looks like a spender to me. Post mint damage, worn all to heck, spend it at Tims or give it to your kids as a novelty.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think that those of the responders that suggested getting it certified by ICCS were pulling your leg (in a way). ICCS has recently (last year or so) been certifying things that are fakes, coins that are not coins, not correct, etc ... and they have been taking flak on the coinsites, most of it deservidly so. I suggest that you spend it and give someone else hope (if it's even noticed). It's a garage job and not a very neat one at that .. you can even see the jab mark where they had to pop it out because it wasn't hot/cold enough to get it out with a wooden dowel.
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Valued Member
Canada
402 Posts |
Dottir,
I think too the same conclusion : garage job !
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Posted 02/17/2011 01:36 am
