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Help Me Read My $1 Short Snorter

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I am trying to figure out what it says PLEASE HELP ME thank you.

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 Posted 02/17/2011  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The $1 looks like it might be a WWII short snorter. I cannot read much on the front but the reverse is interesting- "180 meridian and equator" which would be in the South Pacific and that area is littered with islands that saw heavy action.
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 Posted 02/17/2011  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya, I have my Dad's half of one.
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Here is hopefully better pictures of the writing in hopes someone will be able to Read it.


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HELP!!
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Here's what I get, and I do work with handwritten documents... To be more sure, I'd really have to have the piece in hand.

Of the six signatures, they were done in two different groups. The word that looks like Buddah (But isn't) and the first three signatures were done at the same time, in the same pen, and appear to have been written by the same person.

1._________ __________ (to many possibilities and curious use of punctuation.)
2.Dellesandri
3.__antas G. (Missing letter probably an S or an L)
----------------------------- Line written by same pen as above names.
4.________ __________ (name obliterated by fold)
5.Sandford __r. (I suspect the unreadable letter to be an F, but I won't say that definitely.)
6. Falabella D.G.

The person who wrote Buddea, the first 3 names, and the line separator also wrote "Salty Sniffer" and "180 Meridian & Equator" using the same pen.
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I inverted the colors of your picture, and the word at the top is "Buddea" which I believe is the Korean word for "Army base".
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 Posted 02/17/2011  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is truly amazing JM.... the only ones that I could make out were Henry Morganthau Jr. and W.A. Julian...
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 Posted 02/17/2011  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Zee,

Mom and Dad always said I wasted those two degrees in Forensics....
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 Posted 02/18/2011  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meldude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm taking a wild guess... Maybe a secret note on a bill to base? Dunno... I can barely read a thing...
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What type of forensics JM? Very interesting to me.

Short snorters are typically notes that are autographed by friends and acquaintances of the note's owner.

This note (if the names are written by only one person) would seem more as a note of remembrance, names that the owner/author jotted down himself for personal reasons.
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 Posted 02/18/2011  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because of the inscription "Salty Sniffer", and the two groups of names, I'm wondering if perhaps the two groups of names represent flight crews of some sort of submarine search planes, or regular SAR missions. The reason I suspect that is "Salty Sniffer" would seem to be a reference to fish hunting in the ocean. "sniffer" is a fairly common fishing term. The word "Buddea" would seem to discredit that explanation, as the Korean peninsula was under Japanese control during the war.

I do not think the writing on the bill is much later than WWII, because most of the writing was done with a fountain pen, and ball point pens phased in very quickly after the war.
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 Posted 02/18/2011  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am very impressed with your line of reasoning JM.... very impressed...
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 Posted 02/18/2011  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zee,

B.S./M.S. Forensic Anthro, B.A. Classical History, B.A. Linguistics, Ph. D. in Literature, and professional certification in Forensic Document Examination.
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Well Doc, seems to me that your studies in linguistics have more correlation to this note than anything to do with anthropology..... is an apprenticeship in forensic document examination (subsequent to the general forensics degree) the major requirement for certification?
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Back when I got my degrees, Forensic Anthropology was far more widely defined than it is now. Document examination doesn't really have any one clear path to a career. Most certified document examiners come from the Law Enforcement community, and receive specialized training through Quantico. I have similar training, though I'm unusual in that I deal primarily in 18th and 19th Century manuscripts, 20th Century political figures, and period technique... For example, paper, ink, chemical composition, handwriting evolution and so forth. I also have to know how language was used in a vernacular written basis at certain periods of time. So, for 18th and 19th Century material, I'm probably the guy you wanna talk to if a document is in Spanish or French... Particularly colonial variations. I also work with 15th-19th century printing techniques, and 20th century fine press items.
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