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Pillar of the Community
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I have inherited a complete set of Walking Liberty halves, but they have been stored in an old blue folder (possibly a Whitman). The obverse of each coin seems to be somwhere around a VG-F or so, but on the reverse there is the damage that is associated with those old folders. Many of them have almost a dark striped appearance that seems to be from the glue or the cardboard striations. Is that toned or is that surface damage? How does that affect the value? Is there anything to do to help remove this or help improve the appearance without damaging the coin? I don't plan on selling these but I want them to have their best appearance in their new album. I plan on putting them in a Dansco since it is a nice set and has some valuable coins in it, but what can I do about the reverse "damage"? Thanks for any help.
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Got to have pics to evaluate this, dude.
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I wouldn't do anything to theses Walkers. It sounds like toning lines from the cardboard. These lines usually don't affect the value.
Edited by 50cents 02/19/2011 6:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I would work with one of the less valuable (replaceable) coins to gauge results. Try soaking in distilled water and see what happens although probably nothing will. Next do an acetone soak and see if it will remove the unwanted substance.
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So with the acetone, how long should I let one soak? I assume it can't harm anything; worst case scenario it just wouldn't do anything to help I guess. After soaking I would rinse them with distilled water and then air dry correct? I am not worried about those lines affecting the value, but some of them are kind of annoying when you see the reverse (luckily some coins are very faint) and I would prefer them to look a bit nicer/uniform on the reverse
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Pillar of the Community
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With acetone, try soaking it for a minute and see how it does... If no result at all, try 5 minutes at a time... Acetone does not leave spots on coins, but be gentle... Good Luck
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the info and tips! Has anybody used acetone on these kinds of "lines" or striations that appear on the coins reverse from the old folders? It sounds like that is the way to go and I was hoping to hear about some first hand accounts as to what the results were.
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What about the verdicare type products? They are useful on silver coins, would that be something to try?
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: Is that toned or is that surface damage? How does that affect the value? Tarnish/toning, surface damage if it's been there long enough. Since they're mainly bullion, not much. Unless they're worth paying NCC, you're likely to do more harm than good. On au+, you might get away with Jeweluster. Quote: What about the verdicare type products? They are useful on silver coins, would that be something to try? Prolly wouldn't hurt, but it's designed to work on copper. I wouldn't waste the time and money.
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Valued Member
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BadThad said it was designed for all metals including silver.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah I thought it was really desined for copper and the verdigris that forms on copper, but it says it is also useful on other metals including silver. I guess with it probably being tarnish/toing verdicare may not help much.
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I agree witht eh acetone dip. It has helped a lot of my coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sorry to tell you this but those stripes are the results of moisture getting to the glue on the rear of those slots. At the factory where those are produced the glue is stipped on the entire page to save expenses. The cardboard slotted pages are then layed out on them but the glue is on the inside of the slots too. Many people spit on that glue to hold in well worn coins. Moisture in the area too makes that glue attact the coins. In almost all such cases those darkened streaks from that glue is there forever. The only way to remove them is to clean the entire coins with something like Jewlery Cleaners but that would really ruin the value. A dip of any length in Acetone will only remove any of the glue itself that may still be on the coins but that toning, tarnishing or whatver you want to call it is there forever. Sorry.
Edited by just carl 02/23/2011 5:46 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I really wish there was a separate place to post information as to what to do and/or what not to do with coins. Those Folders, for example, could be labled as something for kids or just for fun and not to ever be used for long periods. Or something like that. And it's getting worse lately with so many manufacturers producing those folders for State Quarters and such. Many of those manufacturers have never made anything for coins before and know nothing about them.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just Carl is right, the heavy toning from the glue strips in those folders is pretty much permanent unless you want to strip the entire coin with a commercial dip. That will make them about as ugly as the dark striped toning does.
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No need to be sorry justcarl, I appreciate the info. I was kind of thinking that it would be there permanently. I plan on keeping them in the family and it is nice to have a complete set of Walker halves to put in a Dansco. The stripes are a lasting memory of how my grandfather stored them and they look fine on the obverse (which is what people will mostly see as they look through an album). For insurance reasons what does the toning/tarnishing do to the value of the coins? Almost all of them would grade as VG with a few being F. How would the value compare to a coin of the same grade without the lines? Thanks for the help.
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