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 Posted 09/27/2006  4:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add madbudgie0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey all, Please help me decide which is the better coin... I'm really not sure! I own both and neither are for sale, but I wish to know which one is the better of the two.

Wavy 1

Wavy 2

If I was a guessing man I'd say it was the second, but I need your help PLEASE!


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 Posted 09/27/2006  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, the first, undoubtedly. It's a far nicer strike, especially thru the crown, and the larger number of marks on it are more than offset by the huge gouge on the cheek of the second. If Her Highness had had first aid when she needed it, things might have been different.
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 Posted 09/27/2006  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with super Dave
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 Posted 09/27/2006  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin No 1 is far better in terms of wear and damage. Just take a look at the pearls/gems on Lizzies crown on the first coin compared with the second.
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 Posted 09/27/2006  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is better. It doesn't have that big nic on the Queen's cheek like the second one does.

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 Posted 09/27/2006  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madbudgie0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for your comments so far... Interesting you all picked number one coin, and that I though through my very very limited
expertise (hence the reason I'm here) that it was the second one .
I would love a detail description why it's appears by vote the better coin... Not for the argument, but for my own knowledge, and to understand why so far you have all pick the opposite to me.
I understand SuperDave's comments about strike, and agree, but strike, how much does that count for condition, I though that was just an appeal factor? Considering it's not acual wear to the coin.

I thought.... The second coin, has a lot less wear, light scratches, bag marks, edge knocks etc, over the first coin, and looks a "cleaner" coin, because of. Understanding it does have two heavy contact marks on it, one the reverse & one obverse, and the softer strike?

So I don't know.... Again just trying to understand reason.... Please continue with your comments....
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 Posted 09/27/2006  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first thing I noticed on No. 2 was the mark on the Queen's cheek. As a consequence, I didn't look at much else. I would therefore select No. 1

I had a task of sorting through a number of error coins the other day in order to select a few for keeping. I had a few that I discarded simply because of a bag mark right in line of sight. It may have been the only bag mark on the entire coin, but it was what caught my attention and therefore IMHO detracted from the coin.

I have no experience in grading coins. I simply know what I like.
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 Posted 09/28/2006  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Besides the mark on her cheek, her hair and crown are not as well defined on the first coin. That to me, in my very limited grading abilities, means more wear, which means it's a lower grade coin. What is the figure on the back of the coin? Both are nice coins, though.
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 Posted 09/28/2006  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the hits on the platypus and on the cheek of the lady is why I would say the 1st one as well, the strike is better on the 1st one also but those two hits are very distracting and not something you would want to see if you had a choice in the two coins
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 Posted 09/28/2006  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree that the first one is better. Personally, I have a bad habit of focusing on a single defect (the cheek) and putting everything else on the back burner. I know that not focusing on a coin as a whole (i.e. strike, luster, eye appeal) is a bad habit and am trying to get over it with practice.

Even with this in mind, I would vote for the first!
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 Posted 09/28/2006  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Guido

Besides the mark on her cheek, her hair and crown are not as well defined on the first coin. That to me, in my very limited grading abilities, means more wear, which means it's a lower grade coin. What is the figure on the back of the coin? Both are nice coins, though.

The figure on the reverse is a platypus.
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 Posted 09/29/2006  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Yass

quote:
Originally posted by Guido

Besides the mark on her cheek, her hair and crown are not as well defined on the first coin. That to me, in my very limited grading abilities, means more wear, which means it's a lower grade coin. What is the figure on the back of the coin? Both are nice coins, though.

The figure on the reverse is a platypus.



Any particular reason for putting a platypus on this coin? Did they use other animals for different denominations? And if so, what were they? Thanks for the reply.
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 Posted 09/29/2006  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Guido

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Originally posted by Yass

quote:
Originally posted by Guido

Besides the mark on her cheek, her hair and crown are not as well defined on the first coin. That to me, in my very limited grading abilities, means more wear, which means it's a lower grade coin. What is the figure on the back of the coin? Both are nice coins, though.

The figure on the reverse is a platypus.



Any particular reason for putting a platypus on this coin? Did they use other animals for different denominations? And if so, what were they? Thanks for the reply.

The Royal Australian Mint site with details of current animals.
http://www.ramint.gov.au/making_coi..._designs.cfm
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 Posted 09/29/2006  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link. Interesting.
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