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Two Coins I Need Identifying

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 Posted 03/07/2011  07:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add iamchrisd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help identifying the following two coins, dates and coin values and countries:

ARABIC COIN Dated (1331 or 1221?)

TINY ARABIC COIN (dated 1223? I think)

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 Posted 03/07/2011  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
could they be egypt?
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 Posted 03/07/2011  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second looks to be Egyptian, although I thought that the Misr was normally at the bottom of the coin.
My best guess is Mustafa IV or Mahmud II. No clue as to the denomination though.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nikola to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First coin is 25 PUL - SH1331 (1952).
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 Posted 03/07/2011  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, nikola has it right - the first coin is from Afghanistan. The second, I think, is not a coin but a brass jewelry piece.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably right Bacchus, not only is the Misr out of place but the toughra looks a bit iffy.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iamchrisd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which side would the Misr be on the coin?, and would it be a word or a letter, I have cleaned the coin abit, and it shows more detail now, I will upload better pictures of the second coin.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iamchrisd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/07/2011  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iamchrisd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There appears to be a number (i think its a 2?) at the bottom of the second picture, what is this?
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 Posted 03/07/2011  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I am no expert and I am by no means saying anyone is wrong with the ID of the Afghani coin but I would like some insight please. here are 3 pictures I found of the 25 Pul coins from that time period and the picture of the obverse of the one in question. they just don't look the same to me. I'm not forming an opinion on what it might actually be, I just see what I think is a lot of differences in that obverse


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 Posted 03/07/2011  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
might I offer it is KM947 1/2 Afghani?
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 Posted 03/07/2011  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iamchrisd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having looked up pictures of the 1/2 Afghani, I would say that it looks more like my coin than than a 25 pul. Thanks weavus135

Any more Ideas on the second coin? :)
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 Posted 03/07/2011  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second coin is, as Bacchus2 implied, a jewellery imitation of an Ottoman coin. The coin purports to have been struck in Qustantiniyah (Constantinople-Istanbul), not Misr (Egypt), so it would be a "Turkish" coin if it were real. However, the Ottomans never issued brass coins. Coins with designs similar to this were gold, and even their lowest-grade gold coins don't tarnish like that.

Do a forum search for the terms "imitation ottoman" and you will find many "coins" similar to yours; here is a recent example.

Here's an example of an interpretation of the reverse inscription on an Ottoman coin. Other Ottoman coins, be they Egyptian, Turkish, Algerian or elsewhere, usually have much the same formula.
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 Posted 03/08/2011  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nikola to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the dimension of the Afghanistan coin.
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