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19971-DO-001?

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Can you take a look at my poor scans and let me know what you think about the possibility that this is a 1997P double ear?


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I'm pretty certain I see the doubling on the ear that gives the appearance of a second ear lobe, although I do not see the hair curl immediately above the ear. This may be due to wear.


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I don't see the die marker in between GOD and WE.
Nor do I see the die marker near Lincoln's back.


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I do, however, see the die marker inside the loop of the are in AMERICA.


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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see the double ear..here is what you are looking for

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 Posted 03/11/2011  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know these scans are crap. I can't wait until my Zorb arrives.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know what you mean...I love mine...but in this case,the doubled ear is pretty easy to spot and I don't think better pics would help.
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Sorry scurry-no cigar.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

It's not the doubled ear.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 03/12/2011  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I shouldn't have pleaded my case without my best evidence. The images don't show what I see under my loupe (30x). I will post new images when my Zorb arrives.

Query: Is it possible that two 1997 double ears can exhibit different doubling? On another post someone mentioned that there are a number of 1983 DDO varieties. Can the same be true of the double ear?

I'm the first to admit that this doesn't look like the traditional double ear. At the same time, this doesn't look like the traditional non-doubled ear.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Not in this case. All 1997 doubled ear cents have the same doubling. That is the nature of a doubled die.

It happens that each of the 1983 DDO and DDR cents (that I mentioned) were minted from different, poorly prepared dies so that each is different yet they are all of the same date.

On 1997 Doubled Ear cents, there is only 1 confirmed obverse die. So the only 1997 Doubled ear cent will be consistent in appearance from coin to coin.

You don't need to post any other images. Unless it looks exactly like these:

Thanks,
Bill



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 Posted 03/12/2011  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spring423 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also came across one of those type penny's if this is what you are referring to. Was told it was part of the original ear. Here's a photo of mine I did it in a negative to show better
you can click on it to enlarge it.

http://s1214.photobucket.com/albums...3/spring423/
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Thanks for all the input. It was helpful and informative, especially the images.


Quote:
You don't need to post any other images. Unless it looks exactly like these:


I'm sure you didn't intend to be dictatorial, but if I find an interesting coin and I, or others, can learn something from the input of others, I will post an image. Nobody if forced to look, or comment.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Nobody if forced to look, or comment.


True. But, if there were only a few people I would want to comment on my posts - he'd be one of them.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not criticizing, or saying foundinrolls in wrong. I'm not saying that I don't want his input. I thanked him for his input and said that I found it helpful. I want foundinrolls input and any other helpful input. My ONLY point was that I want to be able to post images of coins when I have questions and I don't want to be told not to.
Again, I appreciate the help.
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I'm with scurry64 on his point.There may be other double dies that have not been confirmed and I would never discourage anybody from posting something that wasn't in the book or on record.Isn't that how the 82 DDR was discovered by one of our members ?
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Hi,

I wasn't trying to discourage other images....In tbis case, I took the original posters image and lightened it in one of my many photo programs. I was easily able to see what noone else can see in the image that he first posted.

His image did not show any kind of doubled die. I was trying to save him some work since he didn't have to post the image again. I hope everyone feels free to post images of anything. Keep in mind that I will often play with the images to see what others might not be able to see.

Here is his image adjusted for brightness and contrast. There is no doubled ear.



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Again, that was very helpful. I appreciate all the input. Now, I agree that I don't need to post any more images. Thank you!
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Wow! All I took from Bill's comment was you didn't need to post another image to see if this was the 1997 doubled die. I took it as he was just trying to save you some time in finding out if this is the one.
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