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trout1105 Pillar of the Community Australia 7096 Posts	Posted 03/17/2011 12:08 am Hi all I came across this today. You blokes are amazing when it comes to identifying coins. It's smaller than a 1/2 penny and slightly bigger than a farthing. Any ideas? Report this Post to the Staff

trout1105 Pillar of the Community Australia 7096 Posts	Posted 03/17/2011 12:13 am Oh I forgot the date it's 1817 Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16867 Posts	Posted 03/17/2011 01:53 am It appears to be a fake sixpence; compare it with this pic of a genuine sixpence. Probably a "circulating counterfeit"; it would probably have been more convincing back when it had a silver wash. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
trout1105 Pillar of the Community Australia 7096 Posts	Posted 03/17/2011 02:10 am Things must have been tough back in them days. Imagine going to the trouble of making a forgery a tanner. I'm glad someone went to the effort; this is probably more unique than a real 1817 sixpence I'll put it in the wierd box. Thanks Sap Report this Post to the Staff
Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 03/17/2011 04:32 am more likely, the forger hoped to pass it off as a half-sov. I have a gold-coated shilling of the same era. I show my forgeries to friends, and then point out that when these coins circulated, possession of a forgery exposed one to the death penalty. The last hanging for coining was in 1828. Peter Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16867 Posts	Posted 03/18/2011 03:43 am It's possible that it's a genuine sixpence with a really thick layer of gilding that's turned brown with age; I was assuming, since there seems to be lots of detail missing on both sides, that it was actually a brass copy, but that could be a side effect of either the scanner or the plating. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
trout1105 Pillar of the Community Australia 7096 Posts	Posted 03/18/2011 9:43 pm I'm sure that its brass, It looks like brass it weighs 4.7g Report this Post to the Staff
biggfredd Rest in Peace United States 9104 Posts	Posted 03/19/2011 05:48 am Quote: Imagine going to the trouble of making a forgery a tanner. In the 1940s, a US counterfeiter made LOTS of nickels. That's considerably less than the value of a sixpence in 1817. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16867 Posts	Posted 03/19/2011 09:18 am Noting your weight and taking a second look comparing it with the sizes of the coins in your third pic, I think it's actually trying to be a shilling rather than a sixpence. The farthing, sixpence and half-sovereign were all about the same size. But it's still a fake. 4.7 grams is too heavy for a sixpence, but too light for a shilling, and much too light for a sovereign. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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