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ID Help For 3 Silver Hammered Coins | Charles I Shilling Etc

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 Posted 03/19/2011  06:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add colgoldlyn77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

Please could anybody help me positive ID these 3 coins my friend found on a News Dig in Ripon North Yorkshire UK on Sunday.
We think we know what they are but not definitely sure.
Images 3 and 4 could be a sixpence or a groat, I have been told groats do not have a date stamped on the coin?

If you follow this link it does give more information on the images 5 and 6.

http://time-lines.co.uk/louis-iv-of...27711-0.html
I apologise for some of the pics are upside down, and the coin next to the images is a UK 5p, just to give you some idea of coin sizes.

Kind Regards

Colin

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Top one is a shilling, as you can prove by the "XII" denomination mark - there were 12 pennies to a shilling. The king is Charles I. Though the king's portrait has been worn away to near-invisibility, the good news from an archaeological point of view is that it can be dated: the six-pointed-star mintmark was only used in the Tower mint in late 1640 and early 1641.

The middle one is clearly dated 1574; it appears to be a somewhat clipped sixpence. Queen Elizabeth I's portrait is completely worn away - a fate not uncommon to coins of this period, with designs carved in very low relief.

The last one is not actually English - it's a very nice Continental imitative penny or "esterlin", made with a design similar enough to the well-respected English pennies to hopefully cause confusion and therefore acceptance. The obverse legend reads "LVDOVICVS ROM REX" - Louis king of the Romans, a reference to Holy Roman Emperor Louis IV of Bavaria (emperor 1328-1347). The reverse reads "MONETA AQENSIS" - money of Aachen, the Imperial Free City that actually issued the coin. Here's an example on CoinArchives (this link will expire in August 2011).
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 Posted 03/19/2011  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colgoldlyn77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Thank you for the ID of the 3 hammered coins.

Kind Regards

Colin
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