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Why do collectors recommend the Red Book? It seems to me the Red Book is outdated by the time it prints and the values are not necessarily typical of what you could purchase online. For example, the 2001 S Sacagawea shows 2011 Red Book value of $80. Would someone really expect to pay or sell their 2001 S for that amount at that grade? Am I not using the Red Book correctly? Thanks for any clarification.
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 Posted 03/27/2011  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The RedBook has a lot of other important information in it other than prices.
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 Posted 03/27/2011  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It helps me with Type coins that I don't necessarily collect. What I mean is if I see a Classic Head large cent (say I need it for my 7070) - would use the Red Book to get a rough idea of grade/value. :ow else would I know that since LIBERTY is readable It is at least VG8? That said the prices are inflated for the most part.
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 Posted 03/27/2011  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add docsfishn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I use the Red Book for grade information, mintage, proof mintage, coin composition, weight, size, etc...

I can pretty much find any of that information within seconds since I have been looking at the same format for years.
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The ease of use, and I can always have a copy handy in my glove box... It can also help grade, and find a rough estimate on price(coin prices are never set in stone). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and the Red Book can help the beholder a bit
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 Posted 03/27/2011  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the Red Book is outdated by the time it prints


I don't know if I would call it outdated. They come out way before the years does that they're printed for. I've had my 2011 for months!

I mostly use it like most here, for everything but the prices. Lots of great info. If I happen to see a spike in their price that's not in line with the typical type price, then at least it tells you it's a coin of interest.
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If I happen to see a spike in their price that's not in line with the typical type price, then at least it tells you it's a coin of interest.


I couldn't think of a good way to put it but Scooby nailed it.


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Thanks for all the responses. Its clearer now.
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Funny this topic should come up..... because the 2012 RedBook comes out for sale in just a few weeks ! ...


And yeah.... most numismatists NEVER use the RedBook for "values"...(or I should say that it's ignored, anyway).it's only used for all of the "other" information contained therein. And for that....it's quite valuable and handy ! ...
I think the "greysheet" and several other "price guides" are more often used for coin "values".
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Susan said that she has some of the 2012 Red Books ordered and is going to put some up for sale on the forum when they come in. I hope I get one before they are gone!
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LOL! That's funny.

I just PM'd her and asked her if she was going to do that again this year!
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I love my "Large print edition"
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I was at ANACS one day and noticed their RB. I think it was 1985 edition. Then it dawned on me that they didn't need current prices.
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And yeah.... most numismatists NEVER use the RedBook for "values"...(or I should say that it's ignored, anyway).it's only used for all of the "other" information contained therein. And for that....it's quite valuable and handy ! ...

Not completely true. I always recommend for approximate values to purchase a Red Book a few years old. Not exactly accurate but the Red Book prices are usually about 20+% over so a few year old version becomes fairly accurate.
And for values if you have a coin show near you, might find them cheaper than anywhere else. So far I've been able to get any of them for $10 each. Regardless of hard cover, ringed version, etc. Not sure about the large lettered one.

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It seems to me the Red Book is outdated by the time it prints and the values are not necessarily typical of what you could purchase online.

Not really except for prices. The basic information about all ocins is probably the most accurate anywhere. There is a large staff varifying all info at Whitman for that book. And if you find errors in that book and send to them, sometimes you get a free something or other for you efforts. I did.
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They come in large print? I'd love to read any book again without my bifocals. Looks like I'm going on line again!
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The way I understand it is that the Red Book is what you (the coin buyer) will pay for. The Blue Book is what the dealer will pay if you try to sell a coin to them. Whenever I'm trying to figure out prices on what a coin is worth, I usually divide the value listed in the Red Book by two or three.
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