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rjkingston Pillar of the Community United States 642 Posts	Posted 03/29/2011 6:47 pm Need some detailed grading opinions, could any of this be original luster? etc... Report this Post to the Staff

coinsearcher83 Pillar of the Community United States 1358 Posts	Posted 03/29/2011 7:53 pm I'm going to say AU-50 grade wise.. Thought that flat spot on the reverse ribbon certainly doesn't help any.. Maybe weakly struck? I am NO expert on luster, so I won't even bother.. It looks kinda fuNny to me, but that's probly because I expect old coins to look, well, old! ;P lol Report this Post to the Staff
rjkingston Pillar of the Community United States 642 Posts	Posted 03/29/2011 8:04 pm Thanks again coinsearcher Local coin dealer says the flat spot in the motto is from a worn die. I noticed also the stars on the obverse have a point that seems to stretch off the edge. The UNITED on reverse is suffering from the same shifting die strike. Report this Post to the Staff
nwc coin Pillar of the Community United States 516 Posts	Posted 03/29/2011 9:13 pm I'm going to go with AU-55.. I definitely see some original luster still on there. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 03/29/2011 10:15 pm To me the coin look cleaned, I would grade it at AU-50. Report this Post to the Staff
Ca Dreamin Valued Member United States 149 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 12:24 pm it's a little hard to tell if the lighting is affecting our viewpoints, but I see some broken luster, so it probably was cleaned at some time-I agree with the AU grade. Report this Post to the Staff
Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 6394 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 12:44 pm The luster does have a bit of unnatural shine that suggests the coin was cleaned. I don't think this coin would get into a problem-free slab at PCGS. It might still be worth the gamble since potential resale value will be boosted if it were slabbed as a no-problem coin. The missing URIB is likely due to die damage or maybe a filled die. The stretched star points are typical artifacts from severe die wear and you frequently see this feature on capped bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
w1a9c8k5 Pillar of the Community United States 1348 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 1:00 pm good looking coin. I WANT IT! :) Report this Post to the Staff
dom Valued Member United States 265 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 1:32 pm AU50 maybe a little better. I can't tell if it was cleaned but I would expect a little more natural toning in a coin that is almost 200 yrs old, that is somewhat circulated Report this Post to the Staff
fenton Pillar of the Community United States 4989 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 6:03 pm AU-55 Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 6:47 pm I love the Capped Busties! This one does look cleaned to me and possibly polished. Tons of details however! I can see a AU-50 out of this one (if it gets a grade...). I think this is an O-106 (R-2). Check for the line that connects the lips to the chin (laced lips). Edited by Moe145 03/30/2011 7:07 pm Report this Post to the Staff
rjkingston Pillar of the Community United States 642 Posts	Posted 03/30/2011 11:30 pm Good eye Moe145...It does have a shadow strike line, almost like a double strike on the lip, nose, and left obverse stars. Does this variety help the value much? Report this Post to the Staff
busthalf Pillar of the Community United States 1304 Posts	Posted 03/31/2011 06:20 am I'm also going to say AU-50 possibly cleaned. Struck towards the end of the die cycle. Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 03/31/2011 08:20 am Quote: Does this variety help the value much? It is a nice variety and many people love these. But it is only a rarity factor of 2 so it's not particularly uncommon. I like it! Report this Post to the Staff
eddiespin Pillar of the Community United States 1547 Posts	Posted 03/31/2011 08:44 am I'm going to say she was dipped some time ago. I don't know what's going on on PLURIBUS. At any rate, what a bold strike on the rest of that one! Report this Post to the Staff
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