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Valued Member
Canada
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I know its a big no no to 'clean' but what is recommended for this without 'cleaning' the coin?
Thanks guys/gals/other lifeforms :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Our very own member's (Badthad) product; Verdicare!  |
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Awesome, thanks Rsxtacee! I've just been reading Badthad's post on Verdi-care and thats just what I need ;)
Much appreciated!
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Valued Member
Canada
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I would consider cutting my losses and give them a descent burial, because there really is no cumming back from that. (terminal Cancer)
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Valued Member
Canada
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commomcents13 I totally agree. though a few with the small spot of green or a few globs of gunk I think are worth knocking off the coin. Anything that is starting to go or rot yes out it goes. I actually found a roll the other day and about 10 of the coins were just covered OBV and REV pure green, they went right in the garbage. Normally I anything that was copper and gross I just dumped in to a strong vinegar solution to kill whatever off and then it went to the melt box.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I am not going to promote the fellows product, but I had a beta test bottle and bought the finished product. I have had some success in conserving and preserving the green verdigris affected coins using the Verdi-care as directed and by trying a few variations of suggested treatment on copper based coins. I would not dismiss that some treatments like this could be effective and could make treating and keeping a coin a worthwhile try. A few Large Cents came out quite nice and I saved a semi key Lincoln wheat to the point where it is a favorite member of my collection. It also worked on some Buffalo nickels and a few problem Jefferson varieties. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I would consider cutting my losses and give them a descent burial, because there really is no cumming back from that. (terminal Cancer)
You cannot make that blanket statement without seeing the coin. It highly depends on the degree of the verdigris, i.e. light, moderate or heavy. Light and moderate verdigris can be completely removed in most cases and, if the coin is well-protected from air and moisture, the verdgris will not return. Even if you decide not to remove verdigris, it can still be halted in it's current state by dehydration and/or protection. If you take away the feed materials, it can no longer form or do more damage. Heavy verdigris is a different story. While it can be removed with strong acids, the damage is already done. Removing it will completely strip of the coin of patina and leave behind pits. Personally, I'd rather have spots of verdigris than to have a cleaned pit-monster. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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I found out what BadThad said is true last weekend. Even after soaking in Veridcare for three days, the virdegris was not completely cleaned.  Post pics and ask for advice. Edited by carmykle
03/30/2011 10:37 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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-BadThad- I respect your opinion it is valued as educated and that in most circumstances you are very right as you are here! Thank you for your input! ---Yes! I did not see the coin! There was no picture, so with limited data I threw a blanket on it ( so it would not get cold )! ---I was responding to the question stating my opinion as to what I would do with a coin with verdigris, and in no way did I or would I suggest that others need to follow. ---IMO, a coin that is affected to any degree unless valuable has lost it's appeal to me. ---Given that most attempts to correct a coins condition in any other, than that of an experts hands is risky (and I'm not an expert) so even minor, is notices by any educated buyer under magnification which they do when approached, then dismissed as cleaned / damaged, losing even more of it's possible value! ---In most cases handed right back or sent back or in a body bag by a grader! ---Then IMO Dead! ---I believe that if simple water and a gentle finger doesn't take it off it's to far gone IMO! and is ---I still might keep it but separate it from others to avoid contact. ---If I'm wrong I will stand corrected.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Where and how would a person get ahold of the Verdicare? I have a couple of coins with light covering that I would like to try this on. thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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uncle al - I have a problem with Canada due to their DSL and disclosure requirements on the WHIMS. I am not selling to Canada because I'd have to disclose the ingredients in VC and I'm not willing to do that. I could apply for an HMIRC exemption, but I'm also not willing to to that....so...blame your goverenment for not having VC available in Canada. LOL
Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Canada
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Yeah such a shame that the Gov really needs to know what chemistry is in bottles we might import. I mean they should just allow anything at all on the general assurance it's perfectly safe.
This assurance works for air transportation all across the United States; you can just package up any amount of unknown liquids in your carry on, assure them it's all good and they let you go wherever you please.
As long as it's not on a plane.
I'm tugging your chain of course but there's no font for that so I have to write this note at the end of my post so people know it's a friendly posting. I assure you.
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Valued Member
Canada
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-BadThad- First I will say I can respect an entrepreneur! ---I really did not realize, that you were so behind this product! Till your last post and you gave me cause to search?--- I will also say I agree with you -Ugly- ---But I will add that I'm not a big fan of Government controls (Big Brother) but have to say sometimes it is in our best interests and sometimes they get it right! --- HMIRC (Hazardous Materials Information Review Commission) They are there for a reason and if you don't comply they will deny! ---If its Hazardous then we have to know! ---In today's age we want to know what's in our hand-soap! We have a right and is justified because of some bad business practices! ---In order to do business with us you have to go by the rules! As we do with the US. ---As you have said that you are not willing to comply, then so be it! Too, BadThat! ---You say you don't want to divulge its ingredients to them then; ---I have to ask why? ---Is it hazardous? --- Or could it be that it's Chemistry is so simple that it would be too easy to duplicate? or is a variation of another product?  ---I don't know what the chemistry composition of Verdi Care is, but I use water and it's Chemistry is simple (H2O) and is Free! Mostly  ---Seeing that we are in Canada, then that will just have-to-do! --- In your last post to -uncleal- you said---Quote:
I'm not willing to do that. I could apply for an HMIRC exemption, but I'm also not willing to to that....so...blame your goverenment for not having VC available in Canada. LOL --- My observation is and have to say, not so!
You cant blame the Government! But! --- It's a choice that you made! Good luck! Oh! Canada!... 
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04/03/2011 08:21 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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I am on medical long term disability, but for the past 25 years, I have been a peace officer, namely a DOT. I have also investigated many accidents, some involving dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was part of our mandate, so I feel that safety comes first. It is unfortunate that I cannot receive your product. There have been too many times where people have taken advantage of loose rules, only to cause harm. I do not wish this to become a political discussion, but it is for our benefit in the end. I agree though, there sometimes is too much government interference. Thank you for your honesty.  |
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Valued Member
Canada
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When I signed on, I was enforcer al, but changed to uncle al, to be on the lighter side of things.
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Valued Member
Canada
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if its light and hasn't damaged the coin yet, I would soak it in distilled water with some baking soda. do not use tap water as it has chlorine in it. the green is caused by chlorine and moisture and is acidic. the baking soda neutralizes the acid and the distilled water has nothing in it and will absorb ions. rinse it every day and change the water/baking soda solution or it will start making it worse. if necessary use a toothbrush as the nylon is soft and shouldn't scratch the coin. when the green is all gone, store it with a dessicant for a long time to make sure there's no moisture left and the reaction wont start again.
this doesn't "clean" the coin, it removes the green and stops the damaging reaction. its more of a restoration process. it is also gentile enough that the patina should remain unaffected. although it may be shiney where the green was removed and if you were to sell the coin you should still advertise that it has been restored.
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