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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but can someone define luster? I know it has something to do with the surface quality but I cannot figure it out when people talk about it.

Would it be possible to post pictures of an obvious example? Like two similar coins, one with full luster and one without?
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Mint Lustre: The "bloom" on the surface of an uncirculated coin or medal resulting from the radial flow of metal caused by striking dies. Mint lustre or "bloom" is somewhat frosty in appearance as opposed to the mirror-like smoothness of the field of a proof.

(Directly quoted from: "The Pocket Guide to Australian Coins and Banknotes - Thirteenth Edition" by Greg McDonald)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't luster objective? I have always thought of the description of "luster" as a determinable fact i.e. gradable, whereas "eye appeal" was much more opinion based. This fits with Snooba's definition, but just wanted to see what others may think! I feel that I often time get the luster and eye appeal aspect of a coin's grade confused.
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Luster is an objective part of a coin's evaluation, but it's darn tough to describe. Snooba did as well as it's likely to be explained. The first time you hold a lustrous coin in one hand, and a dull one in the other, you'll never need to be told again.
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If you have an uncirculated coin or a very bright coin out of your pocket change, it will be easier to describe luster to you. When you tilt the coin in the light, you will see how there is a band of light that appears to go around the coin. This is the luster. It is because of that movement when tilted under a light that it is often called cartwheel luster.

As a side note, proof strikes do not have this luster as they are struck differently. This is a good way to tell a proof from a business strike if the fields are mirrored or devices frosted. Be careful not to confuse it with a polished coin, though.

I'm moving this to the Main Forum for better exposure.
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quote:
Originally posted by SuperDave

The first time you hold a lustrous coin in one hand, and a dull one in the other, you'll never need to be told again.


I agree. I had read a lot about lustre, but it wasn't until I started studying and comparing coins that I truly understood it. Hold a brand new, uncirculated coin in one hand, hold an older coin that has seen many years of wear in the other hand and then tilt them both to capture the light. The new one has a satiny sheen, a lustre, that the older one no longer has.
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Luster is the transfer of micoscopic (Flow-Lines) to the coin from the die. When enough coins are struck from new dies their movement across those dies micoscopically etches the dies. Since it's etched into the die it's recessed and what is recessed on the dies shows up on the coin as raised--although it's micoscopic. These lines reflect light. As they get worn down they reflect less and less. Think of a new flow line as this: ^ The wear begins at the point and the ^ becomes more blunt with more wear until it's so blunt it has a "washed-out" look to it. This, BTW is what happens when coins are over dipped or dipped too many times. The chemicals burn down the flow lines and once they are gone that's it, the show is over.

I wonder what will happen when people figure out the difference between a "first-strike" mirror look and not so "first-strike" luster look.
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