Mint , Die, Style, Type Question.....

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Doucet Pillar of the Community United States 1315 Posts	Posted 04/07/2011 9:39 pm As I've been researching mints and officinas for my Constantinople commemorative set, I've noticed that there may be coins from the same mint and the same officina, that look different from one another. I'm thinking that this is because....the Celator had to make a new die and couldn't get the art exactly the same, a new Celator took over and had a different style, or was it done on purpose, or does anyone know. With the number of mints and and officinas this could lead to a great number of coins. Are these differences call types or styles? I think I might be still in a mind set of U.S. coins, where types look exactly the same, except for errors and what not? For now I'll stick to the basic mints, with a few officinas as I can afford them, but I was just thinking about these differences and what it would take to collect them, and how it all came down back then when they were being made. The sunset back then must of looked just the same as it does tonight. Thanks Edited by Doucet 04/07/2011 9:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2881 Posts	Posted 04/08/2011 03:11 am Hi, As all dies in ancient times were hand made it is inevitable that every coin produced from a different die will have differences from every other one. Largely these are just put down to a die difference. There are no "rules" when it comes to ancients, some may think a substantive difference is a different coin, others may put it down as a sub-type and yet others may just refer it to it as a die differences. I'm really only interested in Roman Provisional coin and there you can get to know each die that was used to make the coins so I think of them as different, but you can't do that with the Roman imperial series as there are just too many coins. PS - a celator is really the person who oversaw the minting of the coins - the person who did the engraving is just called the "die engravor" My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
colosfj Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 02:14 am I think that is why I like ancients so much - they are practically all one of a kind, no two exactly alike. I now have desire to know more of the minting process back then, what books did you study Doucet? What about you Bacchus2 you are very knowledgeable from what I have read here on the CCF? Edited by colosfj 04/12/2011 02:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
Doucet Pillar of the Community United States 1315 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 04:03 am Hi colofj Right now for Roman I have read and am reading: Ancient Coin Collecting I.....Wayne G. Sayles Ancient Coin Collecting III..... Wayne G. Sayles. Roman Coins and their values....David R.Sear Ancient Greek & Roman Coins......Zander H. Klawans For Greek I have: Ancient Coin Collecting II....Sayles An Outline Of Ancient Greek Coins.....Klawans Royal Greek Portrait Coins........Newell I'm eagerly awaiting a book called Late Roman Bronze Coinage (LRBC) by Carson, Hill and Kent that Sel691 told me about. It will have good information about mints. There is a link on Forvm's web site that lists most of the ancient mints along with a map of the mints which I found very helpful. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/nu...oman%20Mints All of these books I got used or at a good discount from Alibris or at used book stores. Regards Oh that map is here...http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...w.google.com Edited by Doucet 04/12/2011 04:17 am Report this Post to the Staff
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